Mr. Mcmillon.

That was my understanding.

Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh. Now, did--were you assigned to any position, to take up an.y particular position?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No; the man told us what he wanted and everybody just set it up.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, was Detective Harrison or Blackie Harrison, was he present when Jones gave these instructions?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I am sure that he w. as. I don't know if he was or not.

Mr. Griffin.

And how about Detective L. D. Miller, was he present at that time?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't know at what point Miller had got there. I am sure that he was, because Miller had taken up the position. When we set up, Miller had taken up the position on my right.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you remain--well, let me ask you this: After Jones finished giving instructions, where did you go?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I was there in that area, and I took my position outside of the jail office door there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you immediately take up the position that you had when Oswald was shot or did you move around?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No; I believe I had a different position there for a minute, and I saw that the space over here needed another officer in it, so I got over there.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you remain in that position before Oswald came down?

Mr. Mcmillon.

It seemed to me like about 10 minutes. I am not sure of the time. It was possibly somewhere in that neighborhood.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Now, was Detective Miller in his position when you came---when you took your position, took up your position?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't recall if he was already in position or if he moved in after I did.

Mr. Griffin.

How much of the time that you were in your position would be your best estimate that Miller was also there?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Five to 10 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Miller leave that position at any time?

Mr. Mcmillon.

If he did, I don't remember it.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, Miller was on your right, is that correct?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, would you--I am going to mark this map first of all. This is a diagram of the jail basement area, and I am going to write on here, "Dallas, Texas, Detective T. D. McMillon, 3-27-64, Exhibit 5016." Now, let me see if we can get a place where you can---let me clear this off. Now, would you take this and take that pencil and would you mark on there where you were standing when you took up what you call your position?

Mr. Mcmillon.

These are the swinging doors that we come out of, right?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; they are.

Mr. Mcmillon.

Right along in here.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Would you write out in here, put an arrow or something and put your name?

Mr. Mcmillon.

The full name or just the initials?

Mr. Griffin.

Just something. The "T.D." That is all right. Now, would you put down where Miller was standing?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Right along in here.

Mr. Griffin.

You want to do something to mark that that is Miller?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Okay.

Mr. Griffin.

Okay; was there anybody on your left?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was that?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I believe it was Detective Watson.

Mr. Griffin.

I see.

Mr. Mcmillon.

Right along in here somewhere.

Mr. Griffin.

How is it that you--you seem to have a better recollection of Miller than Watson, is that correct?