Mr. Mcmillon.

desk, what we call the desk. I was working in the auto theft. He is the one that was making out the assignments.

Mr. Griffin.

Was it Clardy?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No; it wasn't Clardy.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was it?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Ed Rivers. Archer and Greeson were on duty.

Mr. Griffin.

How do you spell that?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I believe that boy spells it [spelling] G-r-e-e-s-o-n, and then I don't recall if they were there, but they were on duty this day. Detective Watson, Detective Dawson, and I don't remember who the others were.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you arrived for duty, did you know that Jack Ruby was---did you know that Lee Oswald might be moved that day?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No. I personally felt that he might, but I didn't know that he would.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you arrived for duty, at any time after you arrived and before Oswald was shot, did you hear that someone had called during the night and threatened to get Oswald?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No; not that I recall.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you people in the auto theft bureau, did you talk about the expected movement of Oswald that day?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes; the best I remember, we probably did, theories and opinions, probably. I don't recall how the conversation went.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall whether at any time prior to the time that Lieutenant Smart asked you to go downstairs there was any discussion as to when Ruby--Oswald would be moved?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't recall any discussions. After he told us that, I still continued busy at something, and I remember that I was the last one out of the office when we all started to leave to go down there.

Mr. Griffin.

When you arrived down in the office, when you walked out of your office, did you see any police officers in the hall that you recognized?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you see out there?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't recall who they were. You are speaking of the third floor?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes, yes.

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't recall who they were. I would have known most of those men, but I recall seeing some that I recognized. Right now, I don't recall who they were, but I remember seeing them and recognizing them.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember who you went down on the elevator with?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I believe most of them were the men from my office and some more, the best I remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember if you went down with men from the other bureaus?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes; there probably were some detectives from the other bureaus. I don't recall who they were now.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Now, was there anybody in charge of this general movement going downstairs, was there one man going around rounding everybody up?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't know. I felt like I was under the supervision of Lieutenant Smart until I later learned that there was a man ranking to him down there who was giving orders.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you got downstairs, where did you go?

Mr. Mcmillon.

From the---I got off of the elevator and walked straight through two swinging doors and just outside of the jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

So you were between the swinging doors and the ramp?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, were all of the police officers sort of out there waiting or were they spread out on both sides of those swinging doors?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, we later had spread out on both sides of the doors.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, at the time that you came down, was there a general meeting held outside of the swinging doors?