Mr. Crafard.

I believe so. The way I have traveled around, I had a lot of jobs I even forgot about almost.

Mr. Hubert.

What was this Muir Co. you were talking about?

Mr. Crafard.

It was a leather tannery.

Mr. Hubert.

In Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Muir McDonald?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

At 111 Street. Is that Dallas, Tex., or Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. Crafard.

Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. Hubert.

You worked for them for about almost year, with a couple of time outs, didn't you?

Mr. Crafard.

Altogether I worked for them about 18 months. But including the time I worked part time and I worked part time for them for a while while I was working for J. C. Tracy.

Mr. Hubert.

What was J. C. Tracy?

Mr. Crafard.

That is a cannery in Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. Hubert.

So that during one period you were working two jobs--with Muir McDonald and with J. C. Tracy?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir; I worked for Muir and McDonald an hour and a half, 2 hours, maybe 3 hours a week.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever work for Ablon Poultry Co.?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir; that was after I was married.

Mr. Hubert.

That was where?

Mr. Crafard.

In Dallas, Tex. At that time I was residing at the Letot Trailer Park with my wife and family.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you leave Dallas, Oreg, then?

Mr. Crafard.

When I went to work there, you mean?

Mr. Hubert.

You had gone to Dallas, Oreg., I think it was in the spring of 1961, wasn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you stayed there really about 18 months, right, working for Muir McDonald?

Mr. Crafard.

All together.

Mr. Hubert.

When you left Dallas, Oreg., you were not married, were you?

Mr. Crafard.

The last time I left Dallas----

Mr. Hubert.

No; I am talking about the time you left in the latter part of 1962 or early 1963.

Mr. Crafard.

I was married June of 1962.

Mr. Hubert.

So your wife lived with you for some time in Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. Crafard.

For about 6 months we was living in Dallas, Oreg., from June 10 until I believe in December.

Mr. Hubert.

Where were you married?

Mr. Crafard.

I was married in Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. Hubert.

Where was your wife from?

Mr. Crafard.

Originally from Texas.

Mr. Hubert.

What was her name?

Mr. Crafard.

Her maiden name was Wilma Jean Case.

Mr. Hubert.

C-a-s-e?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Had she been married before?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was her husband's name?

Mr. Crafard.

Donald Johnson.

Mr. Hubert.

How many times was she married before she married you?

Mr. Crafard.

Just the one time.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you meet her?

Mr. Crafard.

I met her in Amarillo, Tex.

Mr. Hubert.

When? How long before you married?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was in 1961.

Mr. Hubert.

What part of 1961?

Mr. Crafard.

In the spring, I believe, it would have been in March of 1961.