Mr. Crafard.

I worked there for about 6 months.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you make there?

Mr. Crafard.

I was making a $1.15 an hour.

Mr. Hubert.

What did it net you before taxes by the month about?

Mr. Crafard.

I would say probably right around $400 for the month.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you leave your parent's home?

Mr. Crafard.

I couldn't give you an exact date on this, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, would it be fair to say it was about 7 months after You arrived there from Michigan?

Mr. Crafard.

It was in the spring of 1961. I believe, probably in April of 1961.

Mr. Hubert.

So that in fact you were with your parents after you moved from Michigan to Dallas, Oreg., for approximately 1 year?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Of which time you say you worked about 7 months?

Mr. Crafard.

I went to school for about 6 months out of it, about 5 or 6 months out of the year, I attended high school.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you finish?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What high school was that?

Mr. Crafard.

Dallas High.

Mr. Hubert.

Oregon?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You were not earning anything then?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I take it that you left Dallas, Oreg., about April in 1961, is that correct?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you go next?

Mr. Crafard.

I went to California where I joined the carnival.

Mr. Hubert.

What part of California?

Mr. Crafard.

Let's see, in Oroville, Calif., where I joined the carnival.

Mr. Hubert.

Oroville?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What carnival was it?

Mr. Crafard.

Royal West Golden Gate combined.

Mr. Hubert.

Royal West Golden Gate combined?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What type of carnival was it?

Mr. Crafard.

It was more or less about the general run of the mill for a carnival. Mostly rides.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say "carnival" you are talking about a place where they have these rides for children and so forth?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How big a carnival was it, I mean, how many people were involved?

Mr. Crafard.

It is pretty hard to say exactly.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do with it?

Mr. Crafard.

I was working with the circus that was attached to the carnival.

Mr. Hubert.

Animal circus?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

They all traveled as a group?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How long were you with that, in that sort of a group?

Mr. Crafard.

I worked that for about 3 or 4 weeks.

Mr. Hubert.

That is all, 3 or 4 weeks?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, where did you go to next?

Mr. Crafard.

I traveled through Georgia where I joined another carnival in Georgia, Jerry Lepke Ten in One.

Mr. Hubert.

What sort of a side show was it?