Mr. Graves.

Well, that was all that was said to me at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Who went up with you?

Mr. Graves.

Leavelle and Dhority.

Mr. Griffin.

And did you talk with Lee Oswald on your way down?

Mr. Graves.

No, didn't say anything to him.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do after you brought Oswald down to the homicide bureau?

Mr. Graves.

Brought him in the office with Captain Fritz and the other people that were in there.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what did you do when you----

Mr. Graves.

I went back outside and started answering phones, or doing whatever it was to be done for a while, but I didn't go back in the office until just before we were ready to move him.

Mr. Griffin.

While you were out there answering telephones and so forth, did you hear any more about the movement of Oswald to the county jail?

Mr. Graves.

Not while I was outside, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Chief Curry come in?

Mr. Graves.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he say anything that you heard about the movement of Oswald?

Mr. Graves.

Not where I could hear him. He went in the office and this---presumably discussed something with Captain Fritz. I believe he made a number of trips there during the time that he was being interviewed.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there any rumors circulating in the homicide bureau about how Oswald would be transferred?

Mr. Graves.

Not to my knowledge.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Well, then, when was the next time that you got any information about moving Lee Oswald?

Mr. Graves.

Immediately after, just a few minutes before the interview was completed, I went in the office, and we were instructed that we were to take him down, and he would be taken in the car.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was in the office when you walked in?

Mr. Graves.

Well, Mr. Sorrels and Mr. Holmes.

Mr. Griffin.

Sorrels is from the Secret Service?

Mr. Graves.

Mr. Holmes is from the Postal Department--I believe it is the Postal Department, and I can't think of the other man's name now.

Mr. Griffin.

Man from the FBI?

Mr. Graves.

Yes; I have that in the little report that I wrote, but I can't think of his name right now. It is a simple name, too, but I can't think of it.

Mr. Griffin.

Was it Hall?

Mr. Graves.

Who?

Mr. Griffin.

Hall?

Mr. Graves.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, that is all right. We can get that.

Mr. Graves.

It wasn't him. Oh, let's see----

Mr. Griffin.

Any other police officers in the office?

Mr. Graves.

Let's see. Leavelle. I believe Montgomery was in there, too.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what was said when you came in?

Mr. Graves.

Well, I walked in and asked--last thing I heard was--Oswald say was that--"Well, people will soon forget that the President was shot." And then--Chief Curry, incidentally, was in there at that time, too, and he was around over behind the desk by Captain Fritz. Between he and Mr. Sorrels, and something was discussed about an armored car, but they decided that they would send an armored car on as a decoy, because it couldn't get down into the basement.

Mr. Griffin.

You had heard a conversation about that?

Mr. Graves.

I heard that discussed just briefly, the armored car was there, but----

Mr. Griffin.

Well, did you hear the discussion about a decoy?

Mr. Graves.

Well, Captain Fritz turned back to me and Leavelle, told us that the armored car would go ahead, and that we would leave out in the regular