Mr. Montgomery.

but I too. I couldn't say for sure. I don't know. There was an FBI agent there, too.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know which agent that was?

Mr. Montgomery.

Oh, Agent Hall?

Mr. Griffin.

I think-- I don't--you are giving your answer. I think you are right.

Mr. Montgomery.

I think that is who it was. I don't know if they have got an agent named Hall, but seemed to me like that is what it was.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Sergeant Dean there?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, there again, I couldn't say, "yea or nay," because I don't recall who was there exactly. I remember an FBI agent there, and Archer--I believe Archer was there. Dean could have been there. He could have been in there.

Mr. Griffin.

Is it your best recollection that there was more than one? That there was somebody else in that cell there besides Hall, Ruby, and Archer?

Mr. Montgomery.

I believe there was. I believe there was a jail guard there.

Mr. Griffin.

Anybody else?

Mr. Montgomery.

No, but----

Mr. Griffin.

Are you indicating that you just don't remember?

Mr. Montgomery.

I just don't remember for sure how many was in there.

Mr. Griffin.

Was anything said to you by any of the people with Ruby when you went up to the jail to get him?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; they didn't say anything to me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did they pass on any information about anything Ruby had said?

Mr. Montgomery.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

No; did you people talk at all with Ruby as you brought him downstairs?

Mr. Montgomery.

I'm sure we did, and I am trying to remember what we said. Let's see.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, now, you knew Ruby. Did you try to get him to open up on the way down?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; I didn't. Usually when we are bringing a prisoner down I don't try to talk to them too much. I don't want to upset anything, you know, any plans he has to talk to him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did Captain Fritz know that you were acquainted with Ruby?

Mr. Montgomery.

He knew when I told him; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you tell him that?

Mr. Montgomery.

As we was going out to Parkland Hospital. He kept saying, "Who is Jack Ruby?" And I told him, "He is a man that runs the Club Vegas out on Oak Lawn."
Asked me did I know him, I said, "Yes; I used to have a district for about 4 years out there."

Mr. Griffin.

Did you feel that if you would talk to Ruby, that Ruby might have been willing to give you any information?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; because Ruby and I, first of all, weren't that close or anything. As a matter of fact, I don't guess he even remembers my name or face, either.

Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Montgomery.

But he was used to seeing officers come in his place. I don't imagine he would remember one any more than others--another.

Mr. Griffin.

Did any of the officers up there at the jail cell with Ruby when you went up there to get him come down on the elevator with you?

Mr. Montgomery.

I believe Hall, FBI Agent Hall.

Mr. Griffin.

And did Hall go into Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Montgomery.

Now, our Detective Hall rather than Agent Hall did. I just don't know, because I couldn't say for sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Who do you remember being in Fritz' office the first time, or--on this occasion when Ruby was brought down by you?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, I know that Captain Fritz, Ruby, and, of course, Detectives Hall and Boyd--Detective M. G. Hall. I know they were there for sure, and who else was there I couldn't swear, because I just saw them