Mr. Montgomery.

Yes, he knew that. We discussed it there in the car that--going out to the hospital--that Jack Ruby shot him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, you took Oswald into Parkland Hospital--were there people asking you who shot him?

Mr. Montgomery.

No, because I didn't go in with the body--I say, "the body"---Oswald. Of course when the ambulance beat us to the hospital.

Mr. Griffin.

As you people went into the hospital, were there people asking you who shot----

Mr. Montgomery.

People doing a lot of talking. I don't know if they were asking questions or what, because we weren't paying a lot of attention to them.

Mr. Griffin.

If somebody had asked you who shot Oswald, might you have said Ruby did it?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; I wouldn't have.

Mr. Griffin.

I might explain to you what I am getting at. We know that somewhere along the line somebody was out at Parkland Hospital who was a newspaperman at----

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

Learned that Ruby was the person. This started a rumor to the effect that his informant must have had something to do with it, and I am really asking you this question to see if it isn't possible that you guys, as. you guys got out to Parkland, somebody had said Ruby was the guy and just by dropping the words, you know, that would, spread like wildfire out there.

Mr. Montgomery.

No; I didn't say anything about who it was that done the shooting, out there.

Mr. Griffin.

What time did you arrive back at the homicide bureau?

Mr. Montgomery.

What time?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Montgomery.

Approximately 1:30.

Mr. Griffin.

And when you got back to the homicide bureau, do you remember having any conversation with anybody about how Ruby got into the building?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, no; I didn't talk to anybody. Just, you know--I guess we was all standing out asking each other how in the world did he get in.

Mr. Griffin.

After Ruby shot Oswald on the 24th, did you see Ruby at any time the rest of that day?

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes, sir; we brought him down for the captain to talk to.

Mr. Griffin.

About what time was that?

Mr. Montgomery.

Probably around 2, because we had been there at the hospital--I mean office, about 30 minutes, went up and brought him down.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did he stay down here?

Mr. Montgomery.

I didn't carry him back, so, I don't know for sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you present during any of that interrogation?

Mr. Montgomery.

Not with Ruby; no.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time you brought him down, did you know how Ruby got into the basement or had you been told?

Mr. Montgomery.

I still don't know how he got down there.

Mr. Griffin.

But, had you heard, put it this way, had you heard at that point that Ruby had told somebody how he got into the basement?

Mr. Montgomery.

I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware of it then.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you remain in the office with Ruby and Fritz for any length of time?

Mr. Montgomery.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Who brought Ruby down with you?

Mr. Montgomery.

Let's see, it was Detectives Boyd and Hall. They sat in on the interrogation there.

Mr. Griffin.

When you got up to see Ruby, how was Ruby dressed?

Mr. Montgomery.

Up in the jail?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Montgomery.

He had on his shirt, and his skivvies.

Mr. Griffin.

And what other officers were there?

Mr. Montgomery.

I can't say for sure but it seems like Archer was there,