Mr. Montgomery.

some of the other officers was making a search for the pistol, and "Blackie" Harrison was standing there and we had--held him down on the ground, and I told Ruby--not Ruby--told "Blackie" Harrison, "Better get him inside the jail office." At which time we all picked him up and brought him inside the jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you hear "Blackie" say anything either before or after the shooting, or during the struggle?

Mr. Montgomery.

Not that I recall, no.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Then you all took him inside the----

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh. Brought him right in here. Laid him down on the floor just inside the door there.

Mr. Griffin.

What was he doing a.t that point? Still putting up a struggle or----

Mr. Montgomery.

We laid him down on the floor there. He hollered and said, "You all know me. I'm Jack Ruby."

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know how he happened to yell that?

Mr. Montgomery.

Do I know that?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; did you hear anybody holler anything to him at that time?
Mr. M0NTGOMERY. I don't remember hearing anything. Hollered--says, "You all know me. I'm Jack Ruby." And then we let him down there and was looking for the pistol.

Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Montgomery.

I said--I said, "Where is the pistol at?" And Officer--Detective Graves walked up to where I was and said, "I have got the pistol right here." And pulled it out of his pocket and showed it to me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you search him?

Mr. Montgomery.

I did not.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, was he searched while he was in there?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, everybody's hands were going all over him; so, I am sure they were searching.

Mr. Griffin.

Were his pockets turned out?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; they didn't actually turn them wrong side out; no, because everything would have fell out.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do at that point?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, after Graves showed us where the pistol was, of course, we knew that he didn't have i¢ on him then. Then Chief Batchelor walked by here. Chief Batchelor is our assistant chief of police, and I asked if he wanted Ruby--to get Ruby in the jail, and he said, "Yes."
We then picked up Ruby and came around the corner here to the jail office. I mean the jail elevator there, and they took him upstairs to the jail, and I returned over to where Captain Fritz and Graves, Leavelle were with Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was "they" that took him upstairs?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, "Blackie" Harrison and Archer, McMillon.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Clardy with them?

Mr. Montgomery.

Clardy was down there if he wasn't with them--I just don't know. I know there was four or five of them there that went up, Cutch-shaw, Lowery.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do after----

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, we went back over to where Oswald was. The ambulance came in and we---of course, they picked up the stretcher that he was on and took it to the ambulance.

Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Montgomery.

And several of the detectives got inside the ambulance and went with the ambulance to Parkland. I went over and got in Captain Fritz' car, Beck and Captain Fritz and Brown and myself went out to Parkland Hospital.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do when you got to Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, first got there, of course, we went into the emergency room and they took Oswald back to one of the emergency treatment rooms, and we---or some captain told us to watch the doors, you know, make