Mr. Hubert.

In other words, it was on the street which the back of your trucked faced?

Mr. Smith.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

To go from your truck to that little vehicle you are talking about, you would have to turn left off of your truck, walk down to the corner and then turn right toward Main Street?

Mr. Smith.

That is true.

Mr. Hubert.

Now let me suggest to you that that street is called Harwood Street, and if you will keep that in mind, we can refer to it as Harwood Street. I think it will make it simpler from now on. How far on Harwood Street from the corner of Commerce was that little vehicle of the telephone company parked?

Mr. Smith.

I would estimate it would be almost exactly halfway up the block.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember seeing an entrance to the building around there?

Mr. Smite.

It iS fight in front of the main entrance, the west side.

Mr. Hubert.

The telephone company truck was right in front of the main entrance?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it on the same side of the street as the main entrance or the opposite side?

Mr. Smith.

Same side.

Mr. Hubert.

So you walked up to that truck?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you figure that because of all you have told us, that considering the hour that it would have taken to warm up, considering that you came and started off at approximately 7 and then you got the complaints and you walked over, it must have been in the neighborhood of 8:15?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see this man that we are talking about, or will in a moment, on the way to the telephone vehicle, or on the way back?

Mr. Smith.

It was on the way back.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay at the telephone truck then?

Mr. Smith.

It was several minutes. We had to hook up a scope and he made some adjustments there. I think I would say I was at the truck at least 10 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Then you walked back?

Mr. Smith.

These are guesses.

Mr. Hubert.

You walked back to your truck?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first see this individual?

Mr. Smith.

When I got around ,the corner and almost back to our truck, this person was standing there on the sidewalk almost parallel with our truck. That is in the vicinity of the door of the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

The. door of the city hall, or of the police department building?

Mr. Smith.

Building. I refer to it as the city hall. What is the name of that officially?

Mr. Hubert.

There are two. Actually one is the city hall or the police department opening which is on the Harwood Street side of the automobile exit. The building on the other side of the Commerce Street exit from where your truck was is the municipal building.

Mr. Smith.

It wasn't the municipal building. We didn't go there until later.

Mr. Hubert.

So he was standing about at the staircase entrance to the Dallas Police Department Building on the sidewalk between the building and your truck, right?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How close did you get to him?

Mr. Smith.

Probably 30 feet.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, where was he standing, or what was he doing, rather?

Mr. Smite.

He was standing there looking up at the windows where we had some cables running through. You see, we had camera gear up on this floor

Mr. Smite.

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