Mr. Hubert.

Now were you on duty in your occupation in Dallas on November 23 and November 24, 1963.

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you with the remote truck owned and operated by WBAP?

Mr. Smith.

I was.

Mr. Hubert.

Who else was with you in the operations during those days?

Mr. Smith.

Well, there was quite a large crew. The way we are situated, there is a basic crew that stays in the truck. That is "in person," that has to do with the picture, and one has to do with the sound, and that other person that is connected with the sound is Mr. Walker.

Mr. Hubert.

Ira Walker?

Mr. Smith.

Yes- In this particular case, ordinarily there is no cameraman near the structure because they are usually in the premises, but in this case we had a camera on top of the truck.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was manning that camera on November 24?

Mr. Smith.

That was Mr. Richey.

Mr. Hubert.

That is Warren Richey?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now those two gentlemen came down here with you today and are outside in the anteroom, is that correct?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your duty during those days?

Mr. Smith.

Well, call it "riding gain on the video." What it amounts to is, to adjust the picture information, using an oscilloscope and that sort of thing.

Mr. Hubert.

Does that require that you be inside of the truck?

Mr. Smith.

Generally. You make short trips outside the truck. The one case that has to do with this particular thing, the man that is responsible for the video has to deal with the telephone company as to the class of picture that you are sending out and so on. It was during one of these particular trips away from the truck to contact the telephone company that I first saw this person that I believe to be the same man as Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us what time that was?

Mr. Smith.

Now here the times are going to have to be fairly accurate.
As far as minutes and seconds, we don't watch things that closely, but the first time I saw this person has to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 8:15 a.m.

Mr. Hubert.

Now there must be some reason why you fix that time?

Mr. Smith.

We went to work at 7, and it takes approximately an hour to turn everything on and get it all warmed up to proper operation. Then we go through this thing of what we call "lineup procedure," on all the cameras, which we had done. So for that reason, I placed this time at approximately an hour after 7 a. m.

Mr. Hubert.

But when all that procedure is done, did you leave the truck?

Mr. Smith.

Not yet.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, go ahead.

Mr. Smith.

We had adjusted all these pictures, and in this particular instance, there were only two. We called the telephone company and they looked at our signal, and if they have any complaints or questions about the quality of the picture, they would tell you what it was. There was a complaint about the picture that I didn't agree with, so we generally get together and one of us looks at the other picture and talk it over and see what the thing amounts to. So I had gone around to the telephone company. It is a mobile home little trailer set up where they put the microwave equipment. Now this was on the west side of the city hall building there.

Mr. Hubert.

What street was it on?

Mr. Smith.

Well, what street?

Mr. Hubert.

Your truck was on Commerce Street, wasn't it?

Mr. Smith.

Yes. We were facing east.

Mr. Hubert.

That is a one-way street going east, and you were facing east? You were on the left-hand side of that street?

Mr. Smith.

Yes. And this trailer was around on the west side of this building in the middle of the block.