Mr. Jackson.

and, you signed the receipt, did you ask him for any given amount of money or just for some money?

Mrs. Carlin.

Just enough money to get back home on, and I happened to mention I would need money for rent tomorrow, and he said to call him.

Mr. Jackson.

Call him tomorrow?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes. He didn't say what time.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, on the Saturday night you did mention to him the question of getting not merely the $5, enough to get back, but really a part of your salary, which would become due whenever pay day was, whether it was Saturday night or Sunday or Monday night?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do I understand you that his remark was, "Well, I will let you have $5 now and then call tomorrow?"

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say that he would send you money the next day?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; he did--just said call him tomorrow and he would talk about that tomorrow.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, the call that he wanted you to make on Sunday was with reference to your request for your pay?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

I gather that he was not disposed to talk about it then, but invited you to call him the next day?

Mrs. Carlin.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

And mentioned no time at all?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, then, did you call him the next day?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, where did you call him from?

Mrs. Carlin.

From our home.

Mr. Hubert.

Where was that now?

Mrs. Carlin.

I don't remember the address. Meadowbrook Drive.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Mr. Weldon Thompson---did you all have a phone listed in your own name?

Mrs. Carlin.

Bruce Carlin.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it listed in your husband's name?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

That phone you used?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you called Jack?

Mrs. Carlin.

At home.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it a long distance call between Fort Worth and Dallas?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Charged to your phone, I take it?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember what time you called him?

Mrs. Carlin.

It was 10. I think it was around 10 or 10:05 or 10:15, something like that. It was between that time.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you be able to say with any degree of accuracy that it could not have been earlier than 10?

Mrs. Carlin.

It could have been. I am not going to say for sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, the fact of the matter is, the phone records show--I don't have them before me, but the phone records show it was about that time. Could you just tell us the gist of the conversation with Jack on that occasion.

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, Jack answered the telephone. And I told him who it was, and he said, "Yes, well," and I said, "I have called, Jack, to try to get some money, because the rent is due and I need some money for groceries, and you told me to call."
And he said, "How much will you need?" And I said--I'll ask my husband, and then I said about "$25."

Mr. Hubert.

Your husband was in the room with you?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes. He was in the part of the front part of the house. And he said, "Well, I have to go downtown anyway, so I will send it to you by