Mrs. Carlin.

Yes; I reached him at home. He answered the telephone. And I asked Jack if we were going to be open, and he got very angry and was very short with me. He said, "Don't you have any respect for the President? Don't you know the President is dead?" And I said, "Jack, I am sorry. Andrew said that perhaps we would be-open, and I don't have any money, and you know I am supposed to get paid." And I wanted some money on my pay to get back home. And he said, "I don't know when I will open. I don't know if I will ever open back up." And he was very hateful. And he said something he had to come down to the club in about an hour and for me to wait and he would see me then. And I hung up and told my husband what had happened. and we waited and waited and he didn't show up. That is when my husband and I went down to the garage and Tammi had to go see some friend there at the Theatre Lounge.

Mr. Hubert.

This first call that you made was not made from the garage?

Mrs. Carlin.

No. It was made from the Colony Club.

Mr. Hubert.

So then you went over to the garage?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the purpose of going there?

Mrs. Carlin.

Because we wouldn't have any more money and we didn't want to sit up there.

Mr. Hubert.

So then did you call Mr. Ruby again?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you or your husband?

Mrs. Carlin.

My husband.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you present when your husband called?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you hear what your husband, at least, said on his end of the line?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes; but I didn't pay much attention. I was sitting in the chair talking to the man that was in there, the man that worked at the garage.

Mr. Hubert.

So you are not able to tell us really what happened on your husband's end of the line?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

What happened after that?

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, my husband then handed the phone to me and called me back to the phone so I got on the telephone and Jack said, "Tell the man at the garage, put him on the phone," and he said, "I will let you have $5 to get back home." And that was all that was said, and he gave me $5, and I signed a receipt, and that was all.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you talk to Jack about the rest of your salary?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

How much in fact was due at that time?

Mrs. Carlin.

I don't remember. I had drew some on my salary. I wouldn't say for sure, but I had drew some that week.

Mr. Hubert.

You were asking him not merely for $5, but all that was due you, I take it?

Mrs. Carlin.

No; I was just asking him for an advance.

Mr. Hubert.

Oh, I see.

Mrs. Carlin.

Because he had been nice to me and let me have an advance before, so I just wanted an advance until he got the club back open.

Mr. Hubert.

Was your salary due at the end of the week or the beginning?

Mrs. Carlin.

At the end of the week.

Mr. Hubert.

Wasn't your salary due that Saturday night?

Mrs. Carlin.

I think it was; yes. I think I got paid on Saturday. It was either Saturday or Monday, I don't remember, because I got my salary on Monday twice.

Mr. Jackson.

Karen, could you have gotten paid on Sunday night?

Mrs. Carlin.

It could have been Sunday. It was either Saturday or Sunday. I got paid twice on Monday.

Mr. Jackson.

On this particular night of November 23, on the telephone when you talked to Jack and he said I will let you have $5 through the garageman