Mr. Hubert.

All right; you also state, so that we can be clear that after you took the elevator to the first floor the doors of the elevator--the front doors of the elevator rather were open, but the back door was not?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That back was not.

Mr. Hubert.

And the elevator, any time you left it, was cut off so that it couldn't be operated?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

It had a key, isn't that correct?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

And without turning the elevator on with the key, it couldn't move?

Mr. Mckinzie.

Couldn't move.

Mr. Hubert.

You had the key in your possession?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

So, the elevator didn't move unless you knew about it?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you let any porters out after you had been told not to move the elevator?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Out the back door?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And the back door, by the way, was closed?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right. So, your statement is that from the time you were told not to bring the elevator down any more there was nobody who could have gone out of the door or come into it?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Through the elevator door there or that alley door?

Mr. Mckinzie.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Nobody asked you for the keys to get out?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, do you know--what is his name, Alfreadia Riggs?

Mr. Mckinzie.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know where he lives?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir; I really don't.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see him that day?

Mr. Mckinzie.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What was his job?

Mr. Mckinzie.

He was a porter.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, do you remember allowing Alfreadia Riggs and Harold Fuqua to go through the back door of the elevator and out of the back door on the alley?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

That did not happen?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

It didn't happen at any time at all?

Mr. Mckinzie.

Well, now, not during the period of the time that I had the elevator cutoff.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, did it happen at anytime from the----

Mr. Mckinzie.

Well----

Mr. Hubert.

From the time that you were ordered not to bring the elevator down until after the shooting?

Mr. Mckinzie.

No, sir; it didn't happen.

Mr. Hubert.

Nobody passed through that door?

Mr. Mckinzie.

One lady probably came from--I went to five and got a tele- phone operator and brought her down to one. I told her I couldn't carry her down to the basement, and she walked down the stairway and she couldn't get the elevator. She walked down, and I carried her back up to one, but outside of that, those two women that I can recall, two women, but I don't know the name, but a telephone operator that got the elevator, one of them on the first floor, and one walked from the first--fifth floor down to the first floor, the down the stairway and I carried her back in the elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

Up to the fifth?