Mr. Hubert.

And, as I understanding your testimony you solved the problem by placing your cables on the Harwood Street side of that ramp leading to the Commerce Street up until the point "3" that you marked, after you--after which you strung them over----

Mr. Turner.

It may have been back in here [indicating]. I don't think they came completely to this point.

Mr. Hubert.

In any case, you strung them over----

Mr. Turner.

Over the drive.

Mr. Hubert.

Over this drive so that automobiles passing wouldn't pass over the cables?

Mr. Turner.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Then you dropped them down the opposite side from where they had been?

Mr. Turner.

No; we stayed up in the ceiling with them. That's right. We had to stay up in the ceiling because any cars running over the cables--running over them knocked them out.

Mr. Hubert.

So, you strung them along the roof and so forth?

Mr. Turner.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, now, where did that camera ultimately come to rest?

Mr. Turner.

From position "1" here, which is marked "1" on this. We moved it to--from--I am now marking "4," in a box and that is our position that we moved it to from where we had our position at one time.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Now, you were that camera was left, and remained left----

Mr. Turner.

That's right, sir, it remained left. Slang [phonetic], the director, took it. We had two other cameras working.

Mr. Hubert.

Where were they?

Mr. Turner.

One was up on the third floor of the city jail, around the hallway elevator shaft, and another camera was on top of a remote truck which was parked on Commerce Street on top the remote truck, to pick up when they made the exit with Oswald. We were trying to think ahead.

Mr. Hubert.

You were told then that there would be an exit----

Mr. Turner.

No; they didn't--they didn't say where the exit would be. We never knew that. We were just guessing at that point.

Mr. Hubert.

All right.

Mr. Turner.

We were never told that they were coming out the Commerce Street entrance. We just assumed, since it was the entrance to the jail, he would come out that way, so, we positioned the camera on top of the remote truck to pick up if he did come out that way.

Mr. Hubert.

Why didn't you make your preparation for an exit from the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Turner.

We had only three cameras, and from all--the way that all the cars had been coming out of the Jail, they had been coming out the Commerce Street exit. We hadn't given any idea that they would reverse and go out through the Main Street.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it normally that Main Street is the entrance and Commerce is the exit?

Mr. Turner.

That's right, so that gave us our idea that he would be brought out that way, and we would get a shot of him leaving.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. You might do this for us now using that numeral system. Place in boxes the other cameras, TV cameras of other radio stations, if you know where they were.

Mr. Turner.

All right. Then "5" will become a camera for CBS.

Mr. Hubert.

What local station?

Mr. Turner.

KRLD. And they were in position, too, along this rail with us. I think at first they were up here with us. This is very vague. They were hanging the camera up on the other side, which is position--well, I won't position that one.

Mr. Hubert.

But they ultimately had to move down where you were? They were on your right?

Mr. Turner.

They were on our right.