Mr. Turner.

prior to the shooting, so we did not have access to the lineup room that night.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, on the morning of the 24th, would you tell us what your activities were?

Mr. Turner.

Well, we---I am not sure on the exact time we arrived. I think it was around 7:30, from Fort Worth. We set up our cameras down in the basement. We had one on the third floor and one camera on the truck, on the outside exit way from the jail. The driveway on the Commerce Street side of the Jail. We set our cameras up right across from the door in the hallway where they bring the prisoners out to transfer them, or Oswald out, which--and that little hallway is very narrow. Do you have a plan there?

Mr. Hubert.

Just a moment.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Hubert.

I am marking a document as follows to wit: "Dallas, Tex., March 25, 1954. Exhibit 5080, Deposition of Jimmy Turner," and signing it with my name and asking Mr. Turner to sign his name below that. Now, Mr. Turner, using the chart which we have marked now as Exhibit 5080, would you, sir, tell us of your activities on the morning of November 24, using a sequence of numbers placed in a circle as to each stopping point, or object that you testify about.

Mr. Turner.

All right. Now, getting back, we had first placed the camera in "1", where I will mark "1" on this.

Mr. Hubert.

In the circle.

Mr. Turner.

In a circle. Now, this is a camera position. Can I make it a box? We'll keep the camera as a box and the circles as people.

Mr. Hubert.

That's correct, but in each case put a numeral.

Mr. Turner.

Numeral.

Mr. Hubert.

In the circle, or box, and use the numerals in sequence.

Mr. Turner.

"No. 1," would be our camera in our original position before Chief Curry came down and talked to us about not having it in that position. We had----

Mr. Hubert.

What time was that?

Mr. Turner.

Oh, it was approximately 9 to 10, that's all I can say. I have no recollection of the time. All right, and in position No. "1," we had stationed our camera. Chief Curry came out in a period of 9 to 10 and said, "Boys, you can't leave the camera there. It's going to be in the way when they bring him out the door. Now, I want all you boys to get a clean shot of it, so, I will get the cars moved out across the railing." So, we'll number the rail "2."

Mr. Hubert.

Yes. Put that in the circles, too.

Mr. Turner.

All right. No. "2" position here [indicating]. "We'll move the cars out from that location and you can set your cameras there, and I will assure you that you will have a clean shot of the whole thing," meaning that we would have a good angle on him coming out of the jail, and everything, so, we immediately rerun our camera cables across the driveway up above, hung them up in the air conditioning, which is position "3," across---can I keep this "3" all the way through?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Turner.

And, sir, we ran our camera cables back along the route of No. "3."

Mr. Hubert.

Let me interrupt you for a moment. Prior to this move, your camera cables came down on the Harwood Street side of the ramp leading to the Commerce Street----

Mr. Turner.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Right?

Mr. Turner.

In other words--I do not recognize this line here [indicating], this line this ramp--oh, this is the building. 0h, this is the building overhang. Now, I know what that is. This is the complete building that covers it.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Turner.

All right.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when you phoned that your cameras would have to be across the ramp, you ran into the problem of your cables?

Mr. Turner.

That's right.