Mr. Vaughn.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And he was in civilian clothes?

Mr. Vaughn.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You know that little concrete or stone projection out into the side. walk ?

Mr. Vaughn.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I think that they have two 'of those, one on each side of the ramp and they extend about 5 or 6 feet into the sidewalk from the side of the building toward the curb---is it correct to say that they are about 12 inches high?

Mr. Vaughn.

I believe they are a little higher--I believe they would be about 18 inches high.

Mr. Hubert.

On what side of the. ramp was Daniels?

Mr. Vaughn.

He would be on the east side, toward Pearl Street there.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, after the Pierce car passed by, what did you do?

Mr. Vaughn.

I walked back inside the ramp to my original post, which was 2 or 3 feet inside.

Mr. Hubert.

And you stayed there until after the shot was fired?

Mr. Vaughn.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did anyone go by you after you returned to your post, following the exit of the Rio Pierce car?

Mr. Vaughn.

No, sir; not that I recall--I don't believe there was.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you qualify that by saying, "Not that you recall"--I had understood from your previous testimony that it would have been impossible for anybody to do so.

Mr. Vaughn.

Well, as far as--actually, when I got inside the ramp, I don't believe there was anybody that went by between the time that I stepped back inside and the actual time of the shooting. When I say I recall, well, I'll put it definite I know there wasn't--I'll put it that way.

Mr. Hubert.

That's the way I had understood your previous testimony, because I had asked you as to whether it were possible for anyone to have passed by you previously when you were examining the credentials of others.

Mr. Vaughn.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And I think your answer to me was--no, it was impossible---they would have had to go either to the left or fight of you and you were standing in the middle of a 12-foot opening ?

Mr. Vaughn.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it fair to say, then, that after you got back to your post, following the exit of Rio Pierce's car, that nobody passed you?

Mr. Vaughn.

Nobody passed me.

Mr. Hubert.

Specifically, did Jack Ruby pass you?

Mr. Vaughn.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when the Rio Pierce car was coming out. what steps or action did you take to maintain the security of your post while that car was passing through?

Mr. Vaughn.

The only steps, like I said, Mr. Hubert, on that--is when I stepped out onto the sidewalks--why--I made sure that my view of the entrance of the city hall was not completely blocked, that I could still see the entrance to the right.

Mr. Hubert.

You use the words "completely blocked," do you mean to infer by that it could have been partially blocked?

Mr. Vaughn.

No, sir; the only thing--when I stepped out, as the car came out, I still had a view of the actual entrance to the ramp.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it have been possible that part of your view was blocked by the automobile itself?

Mr. Vaughn.

It possibly--for an instant while the car was coming out--actually out of the entrance but after it cleared the ramp---no, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

After it cleared the entrance. you returned your view to your post, even though you weren't at it?

Mr. Vaughn.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And nobody entered it at that time?

Mr. Vaughn.

No, sir; they did not.