Mr. Kriss.

Well, we had been kind of walking over here watching the door over

Mr. Hubert.

When you say "over here"--

Mr. Kriss.

In the garage area. I had already put some men out here on both sides.

Mr. Hubert.

You had already put some men out here on both sides? Out on the Commerce Street side?

Mr. Kriss.

Yes, sir; and on the Main.

Mr. Hubert.

And on the Main Street side.

Mr. Kriss.

And we were told by the officers to move all the press back over this way, keep them on this side [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you see, you have to explain what you mean by "this side," because

Mr. Kriss.

Well, that is--

Mr. Hubert.

Because someone reading a transcript of it later won't be able to tell.

Mr. Kriss.

That is the west side then.

Mr. Hubert.

West side of the ramp, is that correct?

Mr. Kriss.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Do I understand you to say that you had been instructed to keep all the press--

Mr. Kriss.

Yes, go ahead.

Mr. Hubert.

Out of the ramp area?

Mr. Kriss.

Yes; against the west wall only, all the rail--the area in here, to keep the press back over here and [indicating]

Mr. Hubert.

Against the rail, or on the side ?

Mr. Kriss.

No; against the rail. If I just leave through--they were trying to clear this up right in here.

Mr. Hubert.

How long had you been in the position that we have marked "Position prior to shooting"?

Mr. Kriss.

Possibly 10 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Ten or fifteen minutes ?

Mr. Kriss.

Something along there. Prior to that time, is when I had been walking right back in here [indicating]. Yes; and standing, I believe standing right over in here is where I placed myself.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. I will put another circle and I am going to mark that "Position of H. M. Kriss prior".-

Mr. Kriss.

"To

Mr. Hubert.

"Shooting."

Mr. Kriss.

Before being told to move the press on this side.

Mr. Hubert.

"Position of H. M. Kriss prior"--

Now, we have not--this is the west side. That is the east side "of being told to keep the press back." In other words, your first position was really the position-

Mr. Kriss.

Right here. That is it.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, let's put a number--No. "1" in it. That was your first position ?

Mr. Kriss.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

And your second position.-

Mr. Kriss.

No. "2."

Mr. Hubert.

As No. "2." "Position of H. M. Kriss prior to shooting." And No. "3" is your position after the shooting? Right?

Mr. Kriss.

That's it; sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you say that you had been in position No. "2" for about 10 minutes or so before they brought Oswald down ?

Mr. Kriss.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Which way were you facing then ?

Mr. Kriss.

This way [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

Facing north?

Mr. Kriss.

Facing. north; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you see anything up there?