Mr. Hubert.

he went, you know he did not go beyond the center stripe, but you think he went--

Mr. Daniels.

Almost--

Mr. Hubert.

Out over the sidewalk and into the street?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes; because there was some cars parked and he had to get beyond them, you see.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, while you were watching the car and Vaughn, I think you said you watched the car until it went around the corner. Did you see anybody go down the ramp?

Mr. Daniels.

No, no; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it have been possible for somebody to have gone to your left and down the ramp ?

Mr. Daniels.

You mean have gotten between me and there?

Mr. Hubert.

And the building--yes.

Mr. Daniels.

Not without me seeing them--I don't hardly think so.

Mr. Hubert.

In any case, they would have to climb over the little marble

Mr. Daniels.

Well, I was not exactly against it at that time. When the car came out, I think I stepped back a little bit, you know, and moved out of the way.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you said that at one point you were standing on the Western Union side of that concrete what do you call it?

Mr. Daniels.

I call it a ramp.

Mr. Hubert.

Concrete ramp---sticking out in the sidewalk?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you had your foot on it?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes; because I was in and out of that position, but when the car came out, I left that and I stepped back out here a little piece from the

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, you left the area 3 and went more towards the street ? I went towards the street and kind of back down the sidewalk.

Mr. Daniels.

I went towards the street and kind of back down the sidewalk a little piece.

Mr. Hubert.

You went more towards the Main Street curb and back in the Western Union?

Mr. Daniels.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

In any case, you didn't see anybody go to your left?

Mr. Daniels.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Nor did you see anybody go down the ramp?

Mr. Daniels.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Then, after Vaughn had done this and the car had gone around, what did Vaughn do?

Mr. Daniels.

He came back and took his position up again.

Mr. Hubert.

So that it is fair to say then that the position we have marked on the map as position 2 was also the position of Vaughn after the Rio Pierce automobile had gone through?

Mr. Daniels.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us what happened after that ?

Mr. Daniels.

Let's see, there is something else that I have been thoroughly confused on--I have never been able to picture in my mind just how it happened-the guy that I saw go into the basement--I'm not sure it was before or after the car came out. I'm not sure I have run that in my mind a thousand times, but I just can't place one before the other.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, in any case, you saw a man go down in the basement?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And at the time you saw him go down in the basement, where was Vaughn?

Mr. Daniels.

In position 2.

Mr. Hubert.

In position 2, that is to say, squarely in the middle of the ramp?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Vaughn look at him ?

Mr. Daniels.

I think he did.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Vaughn try to stop him?

Mr. Hubert.

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