Mr. Daniels.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

He went right on through ?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know how long that was before the shot was fired?

Mr. Daniels.

3 or 4 minutes, I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

But what you say is confusing you is as to whether or not that was after the Rio Pierce car came out?

Mr. Daniels.

I'm not sure I can't place one before the other--if I had to guess at it, I would say it was before.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, you think now that you saw the man go down past Vaughn before the Rio Pierce car came?

Mr. Daniels.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

IS that correct?

Mr. Daniels.

That's what I'm thinking.

Mr. Hubert.

That's your best recollection today?

Mr. Daniels.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when the Rio Pierce car did drive out and Vaughn left his position at No. 2, didn't you as a matter of fact undertake to watch that position which was left unguarded?

Mr. Daniels.

I did notice it to see if anybody went down in it so I could tell him about it.

Mr. Hubert.

And nobody did?

Mr. Daniels.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And that does not refresh your memory as to whether or not the man you saw go down, went down before or after the Pierce car came out ?

Mr. Daniels.

Let me see--I still think it was before.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know that now ?

Mr. Daniels.

No; I can't be positive I don't know it.

Mr. Hubert.

Isn't it a fact that you thought at one time he was the man you had seen somehow when you were on the police force ?

Mr. Daniels.

Well, yes; and here's what--when the guy walked down in there and Vaughn seemed to look at him, the impression I got was that Vaughn knew him and maybe he had let him out and still, I wondered too why he let him go down in there, because he wasn't letting anybody else go down in there. He looked like one of the news reporters or something, at least that's what I took him to be after Vaughn let him go on down. I had seen him before and I thought, well, maybe he's one of the news reporters down there at the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me ask you to do this, Mr. Daniels, I have here three documents. The first one purports to be a copy of an interview with the State police, I think, or the city police, in the course of which you executed an affidavit on November 29, 1963. I'm going to mark that for purpose of identification as follows:
"Dallas, Tex., April 16, 1964, Exhibit No. 5325, deposition of N.J. Daniels," and I am signing my name below it. There are two pages. I am marking the second page with my initials in the lower right-hand corner. Then there's another document which purports to be a report of an interview with the FBI Agents Nell Quigley and John Dallman, which interview occurred on December 4, 1964. That document has four pages. I am marking in the right hand margin on the first page, the following:
"Dallas, Tex., April 16, 1964, Exhibit No. 5326, Deposition of N.J. Daniels." I am writing my name below that and marking the second and third and fourth pages of that with my initials in the lower right-hand corner, and finally, there is another document which is an FBI report of an interview with Bramblett [spelling] B-r-a-m-b-l-e-t-t and Dallman, taken of you on December 18, 1963, and I am marking that:
"Dallas, Tex., April 16, 1964, this is Exhibit 5327, Deposition of N.J. Daniels." I am marking my name on it and since the document consists of three pages, I am placing my initials in the lower right-hand corner of the second and third pages.