Mr. Brock.

What I done, I was in a position here. I didn't move out of it.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, you can mark it then. Just put a circle.

Mr. Brock.

I would stay in this position where I could watch the stairs and the elevator, too.

Mr. Hubert.

You are facing, most of the time, toward Main Street?

Mr. Brock.

Well, I would be facing one or the other there.

Mr. Hubert.

Where you marked the circle, I am drawing a line from it, then I am writing, "Position of A. R. Brock during the time he was guarding elevators and staircase." Right?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I am putting a circle around that language and connecting it by a line to the circle that you drew showing your position. I think you have testified that all the time you were there, the regular service elevators, which are on this chart, denoted as elevators Nos. I and 2, weren't working at all ?

Mr. Brock.

They never opened them the entire time.

Mr. Hubert.

Did anybody go up or down the staircase here, which I am marking by putting in "X"?

Mr. Brock.

No one went in or downstairs on the staircase.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever--did you observe this first aid station ?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see anybody come in or go out of that the whole time you were there?

Mr. Brock.

At the time that I was assigned there, the doctor was in the first aid station, and Sergeant Putnam contacted him and told him he would have to leave the basement area.

Mr. Hubert.

So, he got out?

Mr. Brock.

No one entered after that.

Mr. Hubert.

By the way, I think you stated the time that you were posted, but let's repeat it to be sure.

Mr. Brock.

I think it was about 9:30.

Mr. Hubert.

And you stayed there how long?

Mr. Brock.

Oh, I believe it was 10:45 when I left there.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, now. Was there any--any people either entered or left this service elevator during the time you were there?

Mr. Brock.

When I first got down there there were three city employees and the elevator operator standing there at the door of the elevator around in front, looking around, just seeing what was going on and shortly after I got there, I told them they would have to leave the basement.

Mr. Hubert.

Were they in some kind of a janitorial uniform so that you could tell that they were employees ?

Mr. Brock.

I have seen them before.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know their names?

Mr. Brock.

No, sir; I don"t know.

Mr. Hubert.

Men and women?

Mr. Brock.

There was one woman. I haven't seen her before, but from what I gather, the way she was talking to the others, she was a telephone operator there at the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

White woman?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Were they all white people ?

Mr. Brock.

No, sir; there was one building engineer. Engineer, I believe, is what he was called--a white man. There was a Negro, two Negroes, one was the elevator operator, one .parked cars in the basement there.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you made them all go upstairs?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they come down any more ?

Mr. Brock.

The elevator came down one other time. Sergeant Putnam brought one of the TV men over there, wanted to go up the fourth--fifth floor to do some kind of work with the equipment there, and the elevator come and picked him up and went up and brought him back in a few minutes, and that was the only person went up or down the elevator.