Mr. Hubert.

As long as you were there ?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you all give the elevator operator any instructions about what he was to do?

Mr. Brock.

We told him to take it up on the first floor and not bring it back in the basement, that is, open the door of it in the basement.

Mr. Hubert.

That was after the TV man had been brought up and down?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, at that point, after the TV man had been brought up and down, he was issued instructions, "Now, don't come down here any more."

Mr. Brock.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And all the time you stayed there he didn't?

Mr. Brock.

It didn't come down any more.

Mr. Hubert.

Who got off of that spot at 10:45?

Mr. Brock.

Sergeant Putnam.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did he put you after that ?

Mr. Brock.

He assigned me over to a traffic intersection where the auto was going to take to the city jail-county jail.

Mr. Hubert.

And you went and helped there?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You drove?

Mr. Brock.

My partner drove; M. L. Wise drove my car.

Mr. Hubert.

Dropped you off?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did he drop you off?

Mr. Brock.

Elm and Ervay.

Mr. Hubert.

And you stayed there for how long ?

Mr. Brock.

Until about 11:30.

Mr. Hubert.

Who relieved you then?

Mr. Brock.

11:30 my partner picked me up and reported to Parkland.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay at Parkland? What time did you get there and what time did you leave, we'll put it that way.

Mr. Brock.

I would just be guessing. Stayed there probably an hour or hour and a half.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see any reserve officers around?

Mr. Brock.

Where?

Mr. Hubert.

Parkland?

Mr. Brock.

There was lots of officers out there. I don't remember seeing any reserve officers out there.

Mr. Hubert.

Actually, can you tell the difference from the uniforms?

Mr. Brock.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What? The badge?

Mr. Brock.

They have a patch on their arm that says, "Dallas Police Reserve Officer," or "Reserve Officer," of some sort and they don't carry guns. All they carry is a nightstick.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a reserve officer by the name of Newman?

Mr. Brock.

No, sir; I don't. I don't know any of them, I don't guess, by name, that I can recall right now.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Did you see another officer on duty in the basement but closer to the ramp that runs between Main and Commerce?

Mr. Brock.

There was a, I believe, a reserve officer standing somewhere in this area.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, the arrow points-let the record show that the arrow pointed to by the witness is being marked by me with a circle, and I am writing, "Position of Reserve Officer, as testified to by A. R. Brock," and I am putting a circle around that language and connecting it with this smaller circle. Do you know that reserve officer's name?

Mr. Brock.

No, sir; I just noticed him there. I didn't

Mr. Hubert.

Did he stay there about the same time you did?

Mr. Brock.

I believe he was still there or somewhere in that area when I left, and there was another reserve officer assigned in this area here [indicating]