Mr. Arnett.

I would say something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

And how many red spots do you see on there?

Mr. Arnett.

I only see one.

Mr. Griffin.

One big one?

Mr. Arnett.

Well-

Mr. Griffin.

Or one blurred one?

Mr. Arnett.

I don't know what you call a big one. It's about like my little finger, end of it [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell what sort of shape it is?

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Does it look like a triangle or an arrow?

Mr. Arnett.

It looks like it goes up to a point and comes down to a point and goes straight across the bottom [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Let me state for the record that is pretty good for a man born in 1911. This thing that I am holding up is a red arrow which appears on the back of a Dictaphone belt holder, and this arrow, the stem part of the arrow is not more than a quarter of an inch long. The pointed part of the arrow is unquestionably the most prominent part of it. I am going to ask you to hold it up and I am going to stand back here and I will tell you that I have got my glasses on, but I am not corrected at 20-20 vision. If I didn't know how that came up I would have some difficulty telling what that is [indicating].

Mr. Arnett.

Is that right?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; I think that's pretty good. So you could see this man's green patch on his----

Mr. Arnett.

That's right. He was a patrolman.

Mr. Griffin.

Well now, did you ever have occasion to look up that ramp? How many times did you have occasion to look up that ramp?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, it's like I say, I don't remember just turning around and, you know, just looking up the ramp, but maybe walking into this place to get into position or something or other, I was facing that way.

Mr. Griffin.

Sort of looking around generally up there; I mean as you walked around in this area we have marked "A," did you from time to time glance up in this general direction ?

Mr. Arnett.

From where you marked "A," I couldn't see from there. You are talking about this "A" here [indicating]?

Mr. Griffin.

No; I am talking about this "A" here at the bottom of the ramp [indicating].

Mr. Arnett.

Oh, yes. I could from there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you glance up from time to time?

Mr. Arnett.

I won't say I did, because I don't remember whether I did or didn't. More than likely I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Now; did you glance back at the TV cameras from time to time?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, I would say I did; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, after this second car moved out, did you have occasion to glance over at the TV cameras at any time, toward the TV cameras at any time?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, I would say, just right offhand, I would say I looked around, but as far as just watching the TV cameras, I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you observe what any other officers were doing in your area on that side of the ramp?

Mr. Arnett.

There was a man to the side of me, to my right, that was in
civilian clothes, and was a news reporter that had a microphone in his hand.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he to your right or was he in front of you ?

Mr. Arnett.

He was to my right.

Mr. Griffin.

Directly to your right. Now, where was Officer Harrison?

Mr. Arnett.

Right in front of me and a little to my left. In other words, we were standing facing this direction and Officer Harrison was more or less like this. I was looking over his fight shoulder [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

You were looking over his right shoulder. Were you pressed right up against him at the time Lee Oswald moved out?