Mr. Arnett.

I wouldn't say I was pressed against him. I was directly--you know, next to him.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there anybody behind you?

Mr. Arnett.

Not that I know of.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to state for the record that we have here a Mr. Robert Davis with the attorney general's office with the State of Texas, who has been sitting in on these hearings, and he just walked into the room, and I am holding up, at about the same distance that I held this thing from Captain Arnett--is that right, Captain Arnett [indicating] ?

Mr. Arnett.

That's right.

Mr. Griffin.

I am holding this about the same distance from Mr. Davis, and I am asking him if he sees any colored items on the back of this Dictaphone card that I am holding up [indicating] ?

Mr. Davis.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How many colored things do you see ?

Mr. Davis.

Six.

Mr. Griffin.

He has got better--

Mr. Davis.

Five dots and a colored arrow.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as far as this arrow was concerned, how would you describe that arrow; can you see the stem on the arrow?

Mr. Davis.

See what?

Mr. Griffin.

Stem on the arrow.

Mr. Davis.

Yes; it's fat, kind of heavy, bulky stem on the arrow. Looks more like a house turned on its side than its does an arrow.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you got 20-20 vision?

Mr. Davis.

(Nods head.)

Mr. Griffin.

You don't wear glasses?

Mr. Davis.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

The record should reflect he did a better job than you. Let me ask you this, Captain Arnett: I am going to ask you to step to the back of the room over there.

Mr. Arnett.

Back where?

Mr. Griffin.

Step over to the doorway there.

Mr. Arnett.

Okay.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, take your glasses off. You didn't have them on. I am going to hold up a card here, and can you see the colors on that card?

Mr. Arnett.

I see green and white [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

See any other colors [indicating] ?

Mr. Arnett.

There is a little lighter up at the top of it.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell me whether you see any objects on there or whether you see a circle or a band or something exact or what do you see on there [indicating] ?

Mr. Arnett.

Well, to that end I see something light running up and down, in the upper part of it, just a portion of it is a lighter--kind of a blue color. Then it's a green, then down closer to your thumb it's white [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Well, let me state for the record that what I held up was a Mobil gas credit card, which has in the top half of it a band that has a blue background on it, and against that blue background there is a picture of a Mobil gas station, which is white, and some background scenery which runs behind the Mobil station in some sort of a band, which is green, looks like grass and trees, and just above the blue field there is a completely white area, and in that white area there is written the word credit card, and there is a Mobil gas seal. I think that is a fair description of what's on this card [indicating].

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

And you are now seated close enough to me now that you can see it with your glasses on [indicating] ?

Mr. Arnett.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Mr. Davis, do you think that is a fair description of it?

Mr. Davis.

Yes; I think that is a fair description of it.

Mr. Arnett.

Do you think I got anywhere close to it?

Mr. Davis.

Yes; I think so.