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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 125« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Capt. Cecil E. Talbert)

Mr. Hubert.
Just sign your name below mine then. Finally that brings Up to Exhibit 5069. Do you have any comments to make with reference to that document?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir; on Exhibit 5069, in there and again due to semantics or to my lack of ability to express myself, some corrections that need to be made on the first page of 5069. It indicates "Captain Talbert directed Lieutenant Pierce to call in 3 squads from their district assignments from 3 different stations to take 4 individuals from the headquarters station." The word "individuals" should be squads.
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, you weren't talking about 4 people, but 4 squads?
Captain TALBERT. Four patrol squads.
Mr. Hubert.
Which would constitute a number of people
Captain TALBERT. Which I had already directed him to get as many 2-man squads as possible. I do not have a copy of the details but I could get it.
Mr. Hubert.
No, that's all right.
Captain TALBERT. The actual number--and on to the next page of the same exhibit, he added at this time that there were no reserve officers utilized in the basement of the police building, and that specific arrangements were made to inspect the vicinity of the basement. There were reserve officers used in the police building. When it says "basement,"--there were reserve officers used in the basement of the police building. This up here about the "CID," I mean the' "detectives," rather than the "supervisor," that should be changed too, and "Pierce's car," also.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, you are speaking of the fifth page of--
Captain TALBERT. Let me initial that down there.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, you were talking about something which appears on the fifth page of Exhibit 5069, in the top paragraph. Will you read the sentence, starting with the word "quote" and ending with the word "quote" and then comment upon the sentence?
Captain TALBERT. "Captain Talbert could also recall that upon arrival of the armored car, at the Commerce Street exit a plain car with three detectives were sent out the Main Street rampway so as to be in position 'm front of the armored car for the purpose of escort." The word "detective," should be changed to "three supervisors," "uniformed supervisors," and those men were Lieutenant Pierce and--it identifies them later, but they were uniformed supervisors, and this 5-minute element here, now, hold-
Mr. Hubert.
All right. (Discussion off the record. )
Captain TALBERT. On page 5, of the same exhibit, quote
Mr. Hubert.
First, top paragraph?
Captain TALBERT. The top paragraph quote, "Captain Talbert identified the occupants of this car as being Lieutenant Pierce, who was at that time driving, Sgt. J. A. Putnam who was in the right front seat, and Sgt. B. J. Maxey, he was in the left rear seat. He was later informed by Lieutenant Pierce that it was approximately 5 minutes prior to the shooting of Oswald that they had proceeded from the basement, left the city hall." That this seems to indicate the time element from the vehicle leaving the basement, and the time that Oswald was shot was indicated to me as being 5 minutes. That was incorrect and I believe now that the indication was that it was approximately 5 minutes from the time Lieutenant Pierce had left the homicide office until the time Oswald was shot.
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, your recollection is now that. what Pierce told you later was that 5 minutes elapsed from the time of the shooting and the time prior thereto, that he had left the CID office?
Captain TALBERT. That's it.
Mr. Hubert.
Whereas, the statement that you have just read and quoted would indicate that the 5 minutes was between the time of leaving the basement and the shooting?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
And you think that it was a mistake, that you did not intend to convey that idea of what Pierce told you?
Captain TALBERT. That's quite correct. I didn't intend to convey that idea.
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