a matter of semantics, maybe a matter of conversing, or conversation between Newsom and the sheriff of our having had this brief conversation. Now, the rest, when you ask if we had any conversation regarding a change of plan in the transferring, I answered you incorrectly and I don't recall discussing it with Newsom at all. I did discuss it with Sheriff Decker and said that the chief would contact him. Any discussion with him was very brief and that the chief would contact him about the transfer of Oswald when he arrived at the office.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Have you any other comments to make concerning this document ?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you pass then on back to 5066, which also is an FBI statement.
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir; on this document 5066, it indicates--and this too is a matter of semantics, I am. thinking. It indicates that Ruby rushed in with newsmen. That---shall I read it and finish it?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes, put the part you read in quotes and end the quote and make your comments. Just start off with the word "quote" where you want to start.
Captain TALBERT. "There were approximately 150 news reporters and television cameramen that "
Closing the quote. The 150, in my opinion, mind, which is relatively fluid, by the way anybody will estimate a crowd, "150 including police officers, news media and television cameramen," approximately 150 in the basement. Now, not news media alone, and--" He stated in the rush to get down into the basement in which the loading ramp was located and Oswald was being brought down from the jail, it is highly possible that Jack Ruby may have been--walked down the ramp with the newsmen, unnoticed."
That is, again, something that I couldn't--could not and would not have stated, because the newsmen were in the basement. There was no rush of newsmen into the basement. They were in the basement, and they had been in the basement some hour before Oswald was brought into the basement. I don't know how this was injected into this report, but it is incorrect.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir. Have you any other comments to make in regard to Exhibit 5066?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, "According to Captain Talbert, now, Will Fritz was in charge about removing Oswald to the Dallas County Jail, and the attempted removal of the prisoner Oswald about 11 a.m." That was my opinion. Shouldn't that be inserted there? It was my opinion that Captain Fritz was in charge of the removal of Oswald from the city jail to the county jail. I had no prior information on it, and still have no information on it.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what was the basis of your opinion?
Captain TALBERT. The fact that he wanted him in his office from the jail. He had taken him out of the jail on a "tempo," which is a temporary release from the jail to the CID bureau, or CID office, is the fact that he had him out of the jail at the time is what I based it on.

Mr. Hubert.

I see. All right, now, have you any further comments on 5066?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I would ask you to sign your name below mine and initial these pages. Have you done that?
Captain TALBERT. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, pass then to 5067, and I will ask the same basic questions as to that document and its several pages.
Captain TALBERT. 5067, is my report to the chief of police, and I have no exceptions on it. I read the report, and it is, in fact, similar to one that I had issued to the chief regarding the incident on the date of the 26th---November 26th.

Mr. Hubert.

You are initialing now each page below by initial, and you are signing your name to the first page below my signature?
Captain TALBERT. All right, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, will you turn then to Exhibit 5068, and address yourself to the same basic questions that I asked you originally.
Captain TALBERT. In Exhibit 5068, I have no exceptions whatsoever.

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