Mr. Thornley.

was any rabid devotion there, I wouldn't call it a complete idle curiosity either. I would call it a definite interest.

Mr. Jenner.

A definite interest.

Mr. Thornley.

But not a fanatical devotion.

Mr. Jenner.

You said you knew at that time that he was studying Russian. How did you become aware of that?

Mr. Thornley.

Probably by hearsay once again. I do remember one time hearing the comment made by one man in the outfit that there was some other man in the outfit who was taking a Russian newspaper and who was a Communist and when I said, "Well, who is that?" he said, "Oswald," and I said, "Oh, well." That is probably where I learned it.

Mr. Jenner.

How did you learn that he was a subscriber to Pravda and the other Russian publications you have mentioned?

Mr. Thornley.

Well, I don't think--it was either Pravda or some other Russian publication.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mr. Thornley.

The way I learned that was a story that I believe Bud Simco, a friend of mine in the same outfit, in the outfit at the same time, told me that one time a lieutenant, and I forget which lieutenant it was (I do remember at the time I did know who he was talking about) found out that Oswald, by--he happened to be in the mailroom or something, and saw a paper with Oswald's address on it.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the officer happened to be in the mailroom?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes; and that it was written he noticed this paper was written in Russian and at the time got very excited, attempted to draw this to the attention of Oswald's section chief, the commanding officer, and, of course, there was nothing these people could do about it, and at the time the story was related to me, I remember I thought it was rather humorous that this young, either second or first lieutenant should get so excited because Oswald happened to be subscribing to a Russian newspaper.

Mr. Jenner.

Was this lieutenant's name Delprado?

Mr. Thornley.

I will bet it was. That is very familiar. I think so.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you ever subscribed to a Russian language newspaper or other publications?

Mr. Thornley.

Other Russian publications?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Thornley.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you ever subscribed to a publication that was printed in the Russian language?

Mr. Thornley.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you ever been a subscriber to any literature by way of news media or otherwise, published by any organization reputed to be communistic or pink or that sort of thing ? I don't want to get it too broad.

Mr. Thornley.

Only I. F. Stone's newsletter and that certainly--

Mr. Jenner.

Whose?

Mr. Thornley.

I. F. Stone's newsletter and I wouldn't say--

Mr. Jenner.

Tell me about that.

Mr. Thornley.

He is a Washington reporter who is a rather extreme leftist, but certainly within the bounds of what is accepted in this country as non-subversive.

Mr. Jenner.

Describe yourself in that respect. Where are you, a middle-of-the-roader?

Mr. Thornley.

I would say I am an extreme rightist. I call myself a libertarian, which is that I believe in the complete sovereignty of the individual, or at least as much individual liberty as is practical under any given system.

Mr. Jenner.

You don't have to be an extreme rightist to believe in the sovereignty of the individual.

Mr. Thornley.

Well, it is getting that way in this country today. At least most people who listen to me talk call me a rightist. I wouldn't say so either. I think the political spectrum was fine for France at the time of the revolution-I don't think it applies to the United States of America today in any respect