Mr. Pic.

Someone mentioned, I don't know if it was Vada or my brother, Robert--

Mr. Jenner.

On this Thanksgiving Day occasion?

Mr. Pic.

Yes; after they had left, that Marina's uncle, brother, some relation, was an officer in the Russian Army. She had stated she had a relative in the Soviet armed forces.

Mr. Jenner.

It was your impression that either Vada had or Robert had?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Some of the witnesses have testified that Lee was quick to anger as a boy. Do you remember anything about that? What is your impression about that?

Mr. Pic.

I don't remember, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he a considerate young man?

Mr. Pic.

I think towards Robert and myself he was, sir. Towards other people, no.

Mr. Jenner.

Was his attitude towards other people different from that which he had toward you and Robert?

Mr. Pic.

Yes; I believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

In what respect--what did you notice about him in that regard?

Mr. Pic.

He would rather play with us than play with other children, and he always wanted to go with us wherever we went. Whenever we had a birthday or Christmas he would never forget us. I think he was very considerate towards Robert and myself.

Mr. Jenner.

From time to time we have been off the record and had some discussions in discussing documents and other things. Do you recall anything we discussed off the record that you think is pertinent here that I have failed to place on the record?

Mr. Pic.

I don't remember what has been off the record, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I will put it this way then: Is there anything you would like to add at the moment now that I am about to finish questioning you that you think you would like to have on the record?

Mr. Pic.

If you are interested in my opinions--

Mr. Jenner.

Yes, sir; anything that you want to add.

Mr. Pic.

I think, I believe that Lee Oswald did the crime that he is accused of. I think that anything he may have done was aided with a little extra push from his mother in the living conditions that she presented to him. I also think that his reason for leaving the Marine Corps is not true and accurate. I mean I don't think he cared to get out of the Marine Corps to help his mother. He probably used this as an excuse to get out and go to his defection.
I know myself I wouldn't have gotten out of the service because of her, and I am sure Robert wouldn't either, and this makes me believe that Lee wouldn't have.

Mr. Jenner.

What kind of a student was your brother. do you know, do you recall, rather?

Mr. Pic.

I think in elementary school he was fairly good, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

But then in the later grades, 7th 8th. 9th. 10th. and 11th?

Mr. Pic.

I have no idea, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, that is about all. I sure appreciate your coming, and the Commission likewise, at some inconvenience to yourself. You will be able to catch that 9:50 plane in the morning and get yourself back to your son's birthday party.

Mr. Pic.

I hope what I have told you has been something new and not repetitious.

Mr. Jenner.

Much of what you have told us has been new. Much of what you have told us has been very helpful to us in the way of corroborating matters about which we were not fully informed or in doubt, and opinions have been expressed particularly with respect to your brother have been helpful.
That leads me to ask you this further question: Give me your overall impression of your brother Lee Oswald as a personality, as he developed.

Mr. Pic.

Sir; I remember Lee Oswald as a child, up until about the age of 11 or 12. To me, he appeared a normal healthy robust boy who would get in fights and still have his serious moments.