Mr. Pic.

A couple of blankets on the floor, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you learn during that period of time that Lee had lived with your brother for a time?

Mr. Pic.

Possibly, sir; I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything said about the fact or any allusion to the fact that during this period, up to Thanksgiving Day, there had been a time when Marina had not lived with your brother Lee?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir. I understood they arrived from New York, at New York together, and proceeded--there was a short stay, I think, mentioned in New York. Where they stayed, I don't know, sir, and then they proceeded to Texas and lived with Robert.

Mr. Jenner.

I am referring particularly to September and October and part of November 1962. Was there any reference or any discussion of it or anything said in your presence of the fact that Marina had lived apart, separate and apart from Lee?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

During one or more periods of time in September or October and November 1962?

Mr. Pic.

Possibly it could have been being Marina stayed there while Lee went to look for a job in Dallas, I think, that may have been mentioned.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there at any time mentioned even while he was working in Fort Worth, fully employed that she had separated from him and gone to live elsewhere?

Mr. Pic.

I am not aware that he did work in Fort Worth, sir, at any time.

Mr. Jenner.

You didn't learn at that time, Thanksgiving, that he had worked in Fort Worth?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the Leslie Welding Co. mentioned at all?

Mr. Pic.

Something about welding was mentioned, that he tried it when he first came back, now that you mention it.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it your impression or did you gain the impression then that he had had some employment in Fort Worth then as a welder ?

Mr. Pic.

I don't remember if it was Fort Worth, sir, or where it was. I just know that welding was mentioned.

Mr. Jenner.

In that connection, was it mentioned or in any fashion indicated to you that he had been employed as a welder whether in Fort Worth or otherwise, but he had been employed as a welder?

Mr. Pic.

It was my impression because of his experience in the Soviet Union
working with metals that this helped him in getting his job as a welder.

Mr. Jenner.

When he first returned?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And that that was a position or work that he had had prior to the time that he obtained the position in Dallas about which he spoke?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

That is a position preceding his work in the photography field in some firm in Dallas?

Mr. Pic.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Anything said about his financial status--that is, his and Marina's, and the child?

Mr. Pic.

Well, he said he wasn't making very much money, but they were managing to get by. They couldn't afford a TV, couldn't afford a radio, couldn't afford these necessities of life.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything during the course of that day on the subject of any political philosophy of his?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; not at all.

Mr. Jenner.

Politics wasn't discussed?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Whether party politics or politics in the broad sense?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; not at all.

Mr. Jenner.

How did he look to you physically as compared with when you had seen him last?

Mr. Pic.

I would have never recognized him, sir.

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