Mr. Rankin.

Did your husband give any reason for coming home on Thursday?

This, of course, was on Thursday, November 21.

Mrs. Oswald.

He said that he was lonely because he hadn't come the preceding weekend and he wanted to make his peace with me.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you say anything to him then?

Mrs. Oswald.

He tried to talk to me, but I would not answer him and he was very upset.

Mr. Rankin.

Were you upset with him?

Mrs. Oswald.

I was angry, of course. He was not angry, he was upset. I was angry. He tried very hard to please me. He spent quite a bit of time putting away diapers and playing with the children on the street.

Mr. Rankin.

How did you indicate to him that you were angry with him?

Mrs. Oswald.

By not talking to him.

Mr. Rankin.

And how did he show that he was upset?

Mrs. Oswald.

He was upset over the fact that I would not answer him. He tried to start a conversation with me several times, but I would not answer and he said that he didn't want me to be angry at him because this upsets him.
On that day he suggested that we rent an apartment in Dallas. He said that he was tired of living alone and perhaps the reason for my being so angry was the fact that we were not living together, that if I want to, he would rent an apartment in Dallas tomorrow, that he didn't want me to remain with Ruth any longer, but wanted me to live with him in Dallas. He repeated this not once, but several times, but I refused. And he said that once again I was preferring my friends to him and-I didn't need him.

Mr. Rankin.

What did you say to that?

Mrs. Oswald.

I said it would be better if I remained with Ruth until the holidays, he would come and that we would all meet together and this was better, because while he was living alone and I stayed with Ruth, we were spending less money and I told him to buy me a washing machine, because with two children it became too difficult to wash by hand.

Mr. Rankin.

What did he say to that?

Mrs. Oswald.

He said he would buy me a washing machine.

Mr. Rankin.

What did you say to that?

Mrs. Oswald.

Thank you, that it would be better if he bought something for himself, that I would manage.

Mrs. Paine.

I want to point out that she referred to his playing with the children on the street, meaning outdoors--the phrase is the same in Russian, that is to say, the translation--it can mean either outdoors or on the street.
When I arrived, he had been there for at least, I will say, 15 minutes. I arrived around 5:30 and a good deal of this might have happened prior to then.

Mr. Liebeler.

Prior to the time you came home?

Mrs. Paine.

Prior to the time I arrived--yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, the next two sentences here I will read to you--two or three sentences more.

Mr. Rankin.

Did this seem to make him more upset when you suggested that he wait about getting an apartment for you to live in?

Mrs. Oswald.

Yes. He then stopped talking and sat down and watched television and then went to bed. I went to bed later. It was about 9 o'clock when he went to sleep. I went to sleep at about 11:30, but it seemed to me that he was not really asleep, but I didn't talk to him.
I suggest that that testimony would indicate that there probably was a considerable degree of coolness between the Oswalds that evening; would it suggest that to you?

Mrs. Paine.

It would suggest that to me.

Mr. Liebeler.

At least that their relations would not be normal.

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I might describe what I think normal is. I said I thought their relations were fairly normal.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, was there usually a good deal of coolness between them?