Mrs. Paine.

I didn't notice any such coolness. Rather, they seemed warm, like a couple making up a small spat. I should interject one thing here, too, that I recall as I entered the house and Lee had just come in. I said to him, "Our President is coming to town."
You indicated specifically here that he was quite friendly on the lawn and that you noticed no coolness between them. Now, what was Marina's response to all this, the best you can recall?

Mrs. Paine.

You recall that he was there when I arrived from the grocery store. They had already met. Her response was really to me, as he had gone on into the house. She mentioned to me her embarrassment that he hadn't called and asked if he could come.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about Marina's response to Lee, did I understand from reading your previous testimony that both you and Marina were of the opinion that Oswald had come home that night to make up the argument that Marina and Lee had had on the telephone on Monday; isn't that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And Oswald acted in a manner that led you to believe that he had come home specifically to make up the argument?

Mrs. Paine.

That it was at least conciliatory.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did Oswald do that led you to believe that he wanted to make up the argument? Did he do anything different out of the ordinary?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I would say just the contrary, that he proceeded as he might normally have done on a Friday night coming home or coming to the house for the weekend. I don't think--I would be certain that he made no apology, just from my judgment of the man.

Mr. Liebeler.

At least, you didn't hear him make any apology?

Mrs. Paine.

I certainly didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you hear him ask Marina to move into Dallas with him?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think that he might have asked her to do that?

Mrs. Paine.

She told me, and it should be there, that he had expressed to her--she told me the night of the 22d that he had expressed to her his wish that they could get together as soon as possible and have their apartment together. The setting in which she told me this left me with the impression that she was confused and hurt that he could be making a gesture toward the re-establishing of their family life when at the same time he must have been thinking about doing something that would necessarily destroy their family life. There was no. indication to her, in what she told me, that he meant for her to do it right away. I have since heard this by rumor.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, I'm going to read some more of the testimony to you momentarily, some of Marina's testimony, and I want to discuss it with you, but there is one bit of it particularly that I am confused about just from reading it and I get from it the possible inference and you also, I believe, indicate on page 49 of your testimony, that on the evening of the 21st you and Marina discussed plans for Christmas?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I think it was then--I'm not positive that it was that night.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there any conversation between you and Marina to the effect that Oswald was not to come back to Irving any more until Christmas time?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, absolutely not.

Mr. Liebeler.

There was no indication that his pattern of coming on weekends was to change in any manner?

Mrs. Paine.

No; we had previously talked in terms of their staying at the house through Christmas and then the Oswalds getting an apartment again when they had saved up a little money, around the first of the year.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let me read to you a part of the testimony that Marina gave.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Which, frankly, seems to me somewhat inconsistent with the testimony that you have given about the events of this evening, although perhaps, these things might have happened outside of your presence and you were not aware of them. This appears at page 65 of volume I of the hearings.