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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XI - Page 391« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine)

Mrs. Paine.
Well, I did suppose the possibility--it is possible that he was worried about it being found out at the School Book Depository that he had a Russian wife. He did ask me to ask Mrs. Randle to ask Frazier not to ask questions, not to discuss the fact that he had a Russian wife with the coworkers at the School Book Depository. I think he felt that, if this was known, it would also become known that he went to Russia and the circumstances of that, and he felt, and this was a sheer guess on my part, and I judge that he felt this would make his job tenure unsure.
Mr. Liebeler.
In other words, you do say, however, that Oswald did ask you to ask Mrs. Randle to ask Wesley Frazier not to talk about Oswald's Russian wife at the School Book Depository; is that correct?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right; so that my impression is supported to that extent.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ask Mrs. Randle to ask Mr. Frazier to do that?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether or not she did?
Mrs. Paine.
She said she had already discussed it and she judged that they would not be talking about it.
Mr. Liebeler.
You. You don't know whether Mrs. Randle ever specifically mentioned it to Frazier after you talked to her?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I don't know that.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember when Oswald asked you to do that?
Mrs. Paine.
It was very shortly after he got the job--it was in the first week, I would say.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did Marina tell you that she was angry with Oswald for using this alias?
Mrs. Paine.
It was clear that she was angry--on the face of it.
Mr. Liebeler.
This was clear to you on Monday after the conversation she had with Oswald?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Oswald, of course, did not call Marina at any time during the rest of that week. Did you and Marina discuss the reasons for this?
Mrs. Paine.
We didn't discuss reasons. She did say on Wednesday, is my recollection, that she said, "He thinks he's punishing me," after I told her the fact that he was not calling as he usually did, and her comment was, "He thinks he's punishing me."
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you think that Marina continued to remain angry with Oswald throughout that week for his use of the alias?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't think she continued to remain angry--no. We did briefly discuss why he came on Thursday, with one another, after his arrival.
Mr. Liebeler.
Before we get to that, what was your impression of the relations, if Marina didn't tell you, between Marina and Oswald prior to the evening of Thursday, November 21?
Mrs. Paine.
They had a good many arguments and occasional heated words, and I felt this was--well, that Marina is not one to maintain a feeling of anger--I don't know about that.
Mr. Liebeler.
What makes you say that Marina is not one to maintain a feeling of anger? What is the basis for that judgment on your part?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, I have very little basis. Perhaps--she did write me during the summer, and you have that correspondence, saying that things were better when she didn't argue, and that may be the outward circumstances that I'm talking about. She certainly was cordial to Lee when he arrived on Thursday, and relations were normal between them, I would say.
Mr. Liebeler.
That's really what I want to come to and I want to ask you about, and you did say that on page 47 of volume 3 in your previous testimony. Mr. Jenner asked you as regards the evening of November 21, "Was there a coolness between them?"
Mrs. Paine.
He went to bed very early. She stayed up and talked with me some, but there was no coolness that I noticed. He was quite friendly on the lawn as we--
Then, Mr. Jenner said, "I mean coolness between himself and--between Lee and Marina."
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