Mrs. Odio.

[viewing film]. The man from the back with the glasses, I have seen him, the tall thin one. I would like to see the beginning where the man started coming in.
(Film was rerun.)

Mrs. Odio.

You see the one with the glasses, that thin man. He doesn't have a mustache, though.

Mr. Liebeler.

That third man there?

Mrs. Odio.

I will show you the back when he comes. The man over to the right in the white shirt from the back, that looks so familiar.

Mr. Liebeler.

That one right over there?

Mrs. Odio.

Right; he has the same build.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you back it up, John? Let me ask you this now, Sylvia. Did you recognize Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

Oh, yes; definitely. He made a television appearance. He looked much more similar than the pictures from New Orleans. He had the same mustache here.

Mr. Liebeler.

In the television appearance?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about in the pictures that you saw in the police station of him standing against the wall when he walked out of the police station, did that look like the man that was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about his voice? Did you recognize any similarity in his voice?

Mrs. Odio.

No. I don't know if it was because in the television it changed, or something, and he didn't speak too much that day, and it is hard to remember a voice after such a long time.

Mr. Liebeler.

After looking at this picture, are you more convinced, or less convinced, or do you still have about the same feeling that you had before you looked at it that the man who was in your apartment late in September was the same man as Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

I have to be careful about that, because I have the same feeling that it was, but at the same time I have been looking at papers for months and months of pictures, and these help you to remember too much. I wish I could isolate the incident without remembering the other pictures. I have a feeling there are certain pictures that do not resemble him. It was not the Oswald that was standing in front of my door. He was kind of tired looking. He had a little smile, but he was sunken in in the face that day. More skinny, I would say.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, do you have any doubts in your mind after looking at these pictures that the man that was in your apartment was the same man as Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

I don't have any doubts.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you want to run the picture once more, John?

Mrs. Odio.

What I am trying to establish is the man with the bald in the back was similar to the profile, but he seems lighter in this picture. But the men looked like Mexicans. They did not look like Cubans.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now we have here two pictures that have been made from films of this movie.

Mrs. Odio.

In that picture he didn't resemble that at all [pointing].

Mr. Liebeler.

You are referring to Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B; the man marked with the number 2?

Mrs. Odio.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is the same man you have been talking about as looking similar?

Mrs. Odio.

That's right. But in the motion picture he looks thinner and I was trying to give you an idea of the man that I saw that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think that the man you saw in the motion picture, who is the same man marked number 2 in Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B, could have been the same man that was in your apartment with Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

I think he had a mustache, and this man in the apartment does not have any mustache.