Mrs. Odio.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is not the man that was with Leon when he came to your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

No. I wish I could point him to you. One was very tall and slim, kind of. He had glasses, because he took them off and put them back on before he left, and they were not sunglasses. And the other one was short, very Mexican looking. Have you ever seen a short Mexican with lots of thick hair and a lot of hair on his chest?

Mr. Liebeler.

So there was was a shorter one and a tall one, and the shorter one was rather husky?

Mrs. Odio.

He was not as big as this man.

Mr. Liebeler.

Not as big as the man in Exhibit No. 237?

Mrs. Odio.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

IS that the man in Exhibit No. 237 that had a pushed back spot on his head?

Mrs. Odio.

It was different. In the middle of his head it was thick, and it looked like he didn't have any hair, and the other side, I didn't notice that.

Mr. Liebeler.

This was the taller man; is that right? The one known as Leopoldo?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

About how much did the taller man weigh, could you guess?

Mrs. Odio.

He was thin--about 165 pounds.

Mr. Liebeler.

How tall was he, about?

Mrs. Odio.

He was about 3 1/2 inches, almost 4 inches taller than I was. Excuse me, he couldn't have. Maybe it was just in the position he was standing. I know that made him look taller, and I had no heels on at the time, so he must have been 6 feet; yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And the shorter man was about how tall, would you say? Was he taller or shorter than Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

Shorter than Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

About how much, could you guess?

Mrs. Odio.

Five feet seven, something like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

So he could have been 2 or 3 inches shorter than Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

He weighed about how much, would you say?

Mrs. Odio.

170 pounds, something like that, because he was short, but he was stocky, and he was the one that had the strange complexion.

Mrs. Liebeler.

Was it pock marked, would you say?

Mrs. Odio.

No; it was like it wasn't, because he was, oh, it was like he had been in the sun for a long time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let's terminate now and we will resume when we show the film to you tonight.

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Testimony of Sylvia Odio Resumed

The testimony of Sylvia Odio was taken at 6:30 p.m., on July 22, 1964, at the office of the Secret Service, 505 North Ervay Street, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Forrest Sorrels and John Joe Howlett, special agents of the U.S. Secret Service were present.

Mr. Liebeler.

This is the continued deposition of Mrs. Sylvia Odio, which is now being continued in the office of the Secret Service. We have made arrangements in the presence of Agent Forrest Sorrels and Agent Howlett, to show some movie films of some street scenes in the city of New Orleans, and also a television appearance that Lee Harvey Oswald made over station WDSU in New Orleans in August of 1963. I want to ask Mrs. Odio to watch the film, and if you recognize anybody in the film at any time say so as you see him and point the individual out and we will run the film backward and see what it looks like at that time. Please go ahead, John.