(Testimony of Ruperto Pena)
Mr. Liebeler.
Where were you born, Mr. Pena?
Mr. Pena.
Mantanza--that's the province--Colon--that's the city--Cuba.
Mr. Liebeler.
When?
Mr. Pena.
March 5, 1927.
Mr. Liebeler.
You are still a citizen of Cuba?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where do you work?
Mr. Pena.
With my brother at the I help my brother run the bar, the Habana Bar, 117 Decatur Street. The Habana Bar it is called.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know Carlos Bringuier?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you are the brother of Orest Pena; is that correct?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know Evaristo Rodriguez?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Have you discussed with your brother an incident in the bar where a man ordered a lemonade?
Mr. Pena.
I didn't talk with my brother about it. I have discussed it with the bartender.
Mr. Liebeler.
Rodriguez?
Mr. Logan.
Because his brother, apparently--he wasn't there when the incident happened either. He didn't discuss it with his brother and the bartender.
Apparently, he just heard it through talk in the bar about the thing.
Mr. Liebeler.
You were not there at the time this happened?
Mr. Pena.
No; I wasn't there.
Mr. Liebeler.
I show you a picture which has been marked "Garner Exhibit No. 1," and ask you if you recognize that man.
Mr. Pena.
I know him from the newspapers, but I have never seen him in person.
(Discussion between witness and interpreter.)
Mr. Logan.
He knows. Just can't get it out right now. He doesn't remember his name. He knows his face because he has seen it in a lot of photographs and pictures in the newspaper. Never saw him in person, but he knows the photograph of the man from pictures on TV and newspapers.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you know him as the man who assassinated President Kennedy?
Mr. Pena.
Yes; I do. I don't right at this second remember his name.
Mr. Liebeler.
Oswald?
Mr. Pena.
Oswald is the man.
Mr. Liebeler.
(handing picture to witness). I show you a picture that has been marked "Bringuier Exhibit No. 1," and ask you if you have ever seen any of the men in this picture, specifically that man who is handing out leaflets slightly to Oswald's right, the man I point to with my pencil, and, for the purposes of the record, it is the man who stands behind Oswald to his right, and he is the second man from Oswald. He wears a short-sleeved shirt with a tie.
Mr. Pena.
I don't know anybody in there. I don't recognize anybody in there.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever tell Carlos Bringuier that you had seen Oswald anywhere?
Mr. Pena.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Were you in the bar, the Habana Bar, at the time when your brother got into an argument with two Mexicans or Cubans about the bongo drums?
Mr. Pena.
It was me that had the argument with them. I had an argument with a couple of them over there over the problem of Cuba, but I was not there when the incident that your question specifically asked about took place.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now, you did have an argument with two Mexicans about Cuba; is that right?
Mr. Pena.
The problems of Cuba.
Mr. Liebeler.
And did you call the FBI?
Mr. Pena.
Bringuier did.
Mr. Liebeler.
Bringuier called the FBI?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
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