Mr. Pena.
remember when they were saying, "Yankee, go home," in Cuba? He was in Cuba at that time. He was calling, "Yankee, go home."
Mr. Liebeler.
Has he ever favored Castro that you know of?
Mr. Pena.
Oh, of course.
Mr. Liebeler.
Who, Bringuier?
Mr. Pena.
Yes. He said not?
Mr. Liebeler.
I am asking you did he ever favor Castro.
Mr. Pena.
I was in Cuba. I left Cuba very long time ago. I never was involved in any kind of politics. I didn't like Batista, but I wasn't in any organization.
Mr. Liebeler.
You didn't know of any.
Mr. Pena.
What I know about people, what I hear in my place, or what I hear other people talking, and what I hear about Bringuier was, when Castro stared with his revolution of Cuba, he was one of the Cubans in the revolution calling, "Yankee, go home."
Mr. Liebeler.
You don't think that Bringuier is in favor of Castro at this time?
Mr. Pena.
He? No, no. He hate Castro and he hate Russia, but he hates America as much, too. He just want to go back to Cuba and be one of the bosses.
Mr. Liebeler.
Be a big man?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
All right, Mr. Pena. I want to thank you very much for coming in.
Mr. Pena.
I want you to know something: I love the United States more than many people that are born in this country and I got a place of business and I hear--they don't talk much now. They are very scared, but before, when Castro was started, I learn many people, how much they was against this country, people that was born in this country. I love this country, believe me. Maybe you don't believe me or have a bad report about me, but nobody make me a Communist. Believe that. Believe it or not.
Mr. Liebeler.
All right. Thank you very much.
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Ruperto Pena
Testimony of Ruperto Pena
The testimony of Ruperto Pena was taken on July 21, 1964, at the Old Civil Courts Building, Royal and Conti Streets, New Orleans, La., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
Ruperto Pena, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified, through the interpreter, as follows:
Mr. Liebeler.
First, let the record show that this testimony is being taken through an interpreter in the person of Special Agent Richard E. Logan of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Mr. Pena, I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission investigating the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. I have been authorized to take your testimony pursuant to certain regulations and orders that President Johnson has issued, including Executive Order No. 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and joint resolution of Congress No. 137.
You are entitled to have an attorney. You do not have to answer the questions if you have any objections to them, and you are entitled to 3 days' notice of the hearing.
Mr. Logan.
I have already explained to him that you are an attorney and about the Commission and authorization. Now I will just tell him about these rights that he has.
(Discussion between witness and interpreter).
Mr. Logan.
He says as long as he can answer them, that he will.
Mr. Liebeler.
I assume that he will be willing to proceed without an attorney?
Mr. Logan.
No; he doesn't care.
