(Testimony of Orest Pena Resumed)
Mr. Pena.
walk, which way they walked. They say, "If they come back to your place, call us again." I just forgot about it. I never saw them no more.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you call the FBI yourself, do you remember that?
Mr. Pena.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Why did you call the FBI about these men?
Mr. Pena.
I don't like it, the way they were, the way they spoke about the country here, so---I didn't like it, so I called the FBI.
Mr. Liebeler.
And the FBI told you if they came back--
Mr. Pena.
If they came back, to please call them back.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember who you talked to at the FBI?
Mr. Pena.
I don't know exactly. See, I used to call De Brueys. You are from Washington, huh?
Mr. Liebeler.
Yes:
Mr. Pena.
I am going to talk to you about De Brueys and the FBI agency in New Orleans, in Louisiana.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you think you talked to De Brueys at this time?
Mr. Pena.
I don't know exactly. Sometimes you call there and they tell you he is not in there and you talk to somebody else if you want to give the message in the FBI, see, because De Brueys isn't there.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now, these two Mexicans that came into your bar and with whom you had the discussion about the bongo drums, were they the same men or the same man that was with Oswald when he was in the bar?
Mr. Pena.
No; I don't believe so.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did they appear to you to have been entirely different people?
Mr. Pena.
Well, I know it was not Oswald.
Mr. Liebeler.
Was Oswald there at the time you had the argument with the men about the bongo drums?
Mr. Pena.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether or not either of the men who argued with you about the bongo drums had been with Oswald when he was in the bar?
Mr. Pena.
See, the man was over--I can't identify him. I can't. Oswald I-did because of the lemonade. I looked to him, that's all, but the other guy I can't identify. He looked like a Cuban, but I can't say that exactly. Maybe if I would see him again I would say, "Well, that's the man."
Mr. Liebeler.
But you aren't able to say whether the two men who argued with you about the bongo drums had any connection with Oswald or had been with Oswald when he was in the bar?
Mr. Pena.
I can't say that.
Mr. Liebeler.
You didn't recognize either of these two men that argued with you about the bongo drums as the men that had been with Oswald before?
Mr. Pena.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Had you ever seen these Mexicans before they argued with you about the bongo drums?
Mr. Pena.
I don't think they were Mexicans. They speak very, very different, and they looked like Cubans. They spoke something like Cubans.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever see them again after that time?
Mr. Pena.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
You never saw them before that time, to the best of your knowledge?
Mr. Pena.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Is this the story that you told to the FBI after the assassination, that you had seen Oswald in the bar and Rodriguez had seen him in the bar?
Mr. Pena.
More or less.
Mr. Liebeler.
When you talked to the FBI 2 weeks ago, did they ask you about this again?
Mr. Pena.
Yes; they asked me about this more than a dozen times.
Mr. Liebeler.
They asked you more than a dozen times about this?
Mr. Pena.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And did they come to your bar to ask you about this?
Mr. Pena.
They come to my bar. They been calling me to come to the FBI office. That's why sometimes-- one time I went down and got a lawyer. I don't
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