Mr. Pena.

for the drinks and I was a capitalist charging too much for the drinks. He went and came to me and told me about it. I said, "Don't worry about it. They pay you already?" "Yes." "Don't worry about it." If you are going to worry about all the customers, you are going to go crazy. Then I don't know whether he left or something, but he vomited after that; Oswald did. I don't know anything but they walked away; that's all. When the assassination happened, they put the pictures over on the television, so I saw Oswald and said, "That's the man who came to my place one time, the man who ordered the lemonade." Evaristo came and said, "Look! That's the man that assassinated Mr. Kennedy is the one that was here one time."

Mr. Liebeler.

You told this to Rodriguez?

Mr. Pena.

No; he told me. I identified to him by the television. I saw him that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

You recognized Oswald yourself even before Rodriguez came to you and told you about that; is that right?

Mr. Pena.

Yes. When he told me about the lemonade, I took a look at the customer; took a look and forget about it. No sense in going about there and discuss with him, and then all of that was forgotten. After the assassination, we were speaking about that man was here one time. We used to go to Bringuier's place about the incident that we got with Oswald, and Bringuier is very much interested. He called--my brother called Bringuier. We didn't pay any attention until the FBI came one time and asked me.

Mr. Liebeler.

The FBI did come and ask you about this?

Mr. Pena.

Yes; so when the--

Mr. Liebeler.

Was that shortly after the assassination?

Mr. Pena.

Yes. So I told him just like I tell you. Then they start coming, and over and over and over, and then I told the same thing what I knew about, and that's all I know about.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now did you ever see Oswald at any other time?

Mr. Pena.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever see the man who was with him at any other time?

Mr. Pena.

The man that was with him looked Spanish; more Cuban than anything else. You are American. You might know your people. I am Cuban. I can sight them. I don't think I am being mistaken about him, about Cuban people. I can spot them when I see them that they might be a Cuban.

Mr. Liebeler.

You thought this man might be a Cuban?

Mr. Pena.

To me, I thought he was a Cuban. I can tell that is true. I wasn't even too close to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were never too close to this man?

Mr. Pena.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see Oswald clearly enough to be absolutely sure in your mind that it was Oswald in the bar?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever see this Cuban-looking man that was with him at any other time or any other place?

Mr. Pena.

No. See, after--that was before the assassination of Mr. Kennedy--there was an incident in my place. Two guys came. They said they were Mexican. They didn't look like Mexicans. They looked more like Cubans. They came to my place. I got a bongo with a chain. I got two bongoes for the people to play that with the music. I got a chain because I lose one of them one time. Maybe some guy was drunk. That's why I put a chain on it so they can't take it away. I was fixing the bongo on that day and they came in. They came to see me. They said, "That's what you have to have here in this country, a chain?" I was mad because one of the customers broke the bongo. said, "What you mean by that?" When I got mad, I got a little bit--I don't know-- aggressive by the way I speak. So I told them, "What you mean by that?" They said, "Well, in this country you have to put a chain?" I said, "That's so they don't take the bongo away." They said, "This is a democratic country?" I said, "Where you come from?" He said, "I come from Mexico." I said, "Don't tell me about Mexico; you take a car to Mexico, they steal the four wheels away." So right away they saw me mad, so they left, so I called the I think I called the FBI and told them about it. I told them where they