Mr. Liebeler.

it was after the first time Oswald came in that these kids all got arrested. All 50 of them for wearing these clothes?

Mr. Andrews.

I don't know it was 50. That I can't remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was it a month? Two months? A week?

Mr. Andrews.

No; it wasn't that. Ten days at the most.

Mr. Liebeler.

I suppose the, New Orleans Police Department files would reflect the dates these people were picked up?

Mr. Andrews.

I checked the first district's blotter and the people are there, but I just can't get their names. You see, they wear names just like you and I wear clothes. Today their name is Candy; tomorrow it is Butsie; next day it is Mary. You never know what they are. Names are a very improbable method of identification. More sight. Like you see a dog. He is black and white. That's your dog. You know them by sight mostly.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember what date it was that that large arrest was made?

Mr. Andrews.

No; every Friday is arrest day in New Orleans. They clean them all up. The shotgun squad keeps the riots, the mugging, and all the humbug out. They have been doing that very effectively. You can pick just any Friday.

Mr. Liebeler.

This was on a Friday?

Mr. Andrews.

It had to be a Friday or Saturday.

Mr. Liebeler.

In May of 1963?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

After you saw these kids at this big pickup on Friday or Saturday, did you ever see any of them again after that?

Mr. Andrews.

No; still looking for them. They owe me a fee.

Mr. Liebeler.

They are always the hardest ones to find.

Mr. Andrews.

They usually pay. They are screwed in.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did Oswald say to you about his own citizenship status? You say that he mentioned that the second time he came back. What did he talk to you about in that regard?

Mr. Andrews.

They came in usually after hours, about 5, 5:15, and as I recall, he had alleged that he had abandoned his citizenship. He didn't say how; he didn't say where. I assumed that he was one of the people who wanted to join The Free World and--I represented one or two of them. They had belonged to The World Citizenship--I explained to him there are certain steps he had to do, such as taking an oath of loyalty to a foreign power, voting in a foreign country election, or some method that is recognized defectively as loss of citizenship. Then I told him, "Your presence in the United States is proof you are a citizen. Otherwise, you would be an alien with an alien registration with a green card, form 990."

Mr. Liebeler.

Had he told you he had been out of the country?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you where he had gone?

Mr. Andrews.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Since he had been out of the country, the fact that he was back and didn't have an alien card was proof he was a citizen?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember any other part of the conversation?

Mr. Andrews.

When he asked the questions--I don't know which visit it was--about citizenship of his wife, I asked the birthplace or origin cited for citizenship purposes--that's what counts--and he said Russia, so I just assumed he had met someone somewhere, some place, either in Russia or in Europe, married them, and brought them over here as a GI, a GI bride, and wanted to go through the routine of naturalization, which is 3 years after lawful admission into the United States if you are married, and five years if you are not, maintain the status here in the States cumulatively for 5 years.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he indicate that he wanted to institute citizenship proceedings for his wife?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; I told him to go to Immigration and get the forms. Cost him $10. All he had to do was execute them. He didn't need a lawyer. That was the end of that.