Mr. Liebeler.

How many times did he come into your office?

Mr. Andrews.

Minimum of three, maximum of five, counting initial visit.

Mr. Liebeler.

And did you talk about different subjects at different times? As I understand it, the first time he came there, he was primarily concerned about his discharge, is that correct'?

Mr. Andrews.

Well, I may have the subject matter of the visits reversed because with the company he kept and the conversation--he could talk fairly well--I figured that this was another one of what we call in my office free alley clients, so we didn't maintain the normalcy with the file that---might have scratched a few notes on a piece of pad, and 2 days later threw the whole thing away. Didn't pay too much attention to him. Only time I really paid attention to this boy, he was in the front of the Maison Blanche Building giving out these kooky Castro things.

Mr. Liebeler.

When was this, approximately?

Mr. Andrews.

I don't remember. I was coming from the NBC building, and I walked past him. You know how you see somebody, recognize him. So I turned around, came back, and asked him what he was doing giving that junk out. He said it was a job. I reminded him of the $25 he owed the office. said he would come over there, but he never did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you that he was getting paid to hand out this literature?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he tell you how much?

Mr. Andrews.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember telling the FBI that he told you that he was being paid $25 a day for handing out these leaflets?

Mr. Andrews.

I could have told them that. I know I reminded him of the $25. I may have it confused, the $25. What I do recall, he said it was a job. I guess I asked him how much he was making. They were little square chits a little bit smaller than the picture you have of him over there [indicating].

Mr. Liebeler.

He was handing out these leaflets?

Mr. Andrews.

They were black-and-white pamphlets extolling the virtues of Castro, which around here doesn't do too good. They have a lot of guys, Mexicanos and Cubanos, that will tear your head off if they see you fooling with these things.

Mr. Liebeler.

What were they like?

Mr. Andrews.

They were pamphlets, single-sheet pamphlets.

Mr. Liebeler.

Just one sheet? It wasn't a booklet?

Mr. Andrews.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

What color were the pamphlets? You say it was white paper?

Mr. Andrews.

White paper offset with black

Mr. Liebeler.

Could it have been yellow paper?

Mr. Andrews.

I am totally colorblind. I wouldn't know. But I think it is black and white.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are colorblind?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes. Most of them wanted it around there. You give it to them, the people look at it and they drop it, right now.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember what day of the week this was that you saw him handing this stuff out?

Mr. Andrews.

It was in the middle of the week, around Tuesday or Wednesday.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where is the Maison Blanche Building? What street is it on?

Mr. Andrews.

921 Canal Street. It is on this side. It is bounded by Dauphine and Burgundy.

Mr. Liebeler.

How far is it from the International Trade Mart?

Mr. Andrews.

It depends on what route you take. If you come up Camp Street, it would be two blocks to Canal and four blocks toward the cemetery; so it would be about six blocks. It would be six blocks no matter which way you went, but you would walk four blocks on Common Street or Gravier, and then two blocks over the other way.

Mr. Liebeler.

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