Mr. Liebeler.

I am advised by the FBI that you told them that Lee Harvey Oswald came into your office some time during the summer of 1963. Would you tell us in your own words just what happened as far as that is concerned?

Mr. Andrews.

I don't recall the dates, but briefly, it is this: Oswald came in the office accompanied by some gay kids. They were Mexicanos. He wanted to find out what could be done in connection with a discharge, a yellow paper discharge, so I explained to him he would have to advance the funds to transcribe whatever records they had up in the Adjutant General's office. When he brought the money, I would do the work, and we saw him three or four times subsequent to that, not in the company of the gay kids. He had this Mexicano with him. I assume he is a Mex because the Latins do not wear a butch haircut.

Mr. Liebeler.

The first time he came in he was with these Mexicans, and there were also some gay kids. By that, of course, you mean people that appeared to you to be homosexuals?

Mr. Andrews.

Well, they swish. What they are, I don't know. We call them gay kids.

Mr. Liebeler.

Had you ever seen any of those kids before?

Mr. Andrews.

None of them.

Mr. Liebeler.

Have you seen any of them since?

Mr. Andrews.

Since the first time they came in?

Mr. Liebeler.

Since the first time they came in?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You have?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did they ever come back with Oswald?

Mr. Andrews.

No; Mexicanos came back.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where did you see these gay kids after the first time?

Mr. Andrews.

First district precinct. Police picked them up for wearing clothes of the opposite sex.

Mr. Liebeler.

How many of them were there?

Mr. Andrews.

About 50.

Mr. Liebeler.

They weren't all with Oswald, were they?

Mr. Andrews.

No; Oswald--you see, they made what they call a scoop and put them all in the pokey. I went down for the ones I represented. They were in the holding pavilion. I paroled them and got them out.

Mr. Liebeler.

You do represent from time to time some of these gay kids, is that correct?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say that some of the gay kids that you saw at the time the police arrested this large group of them for wearing clothes of the opposite sex were the ones that had been with Oswald?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were you able to identify them by name?

Mr. Andrews.

No; you see, they just--we don't even open up files on them. We don't open a file. We mark what we call a working file. We make a few notes and put it in the general week's work. If you come back and the office is retained, we make a permanent file and--but these kids come and go like you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

When were these people picked up by the police as you have told us?

Mr. Andrews.

Let me think. Some time in May. I went and checked the records. I couldn't find nothing on it. I believe it's May of 1963.

Mr. Liebeler.

They were picked up in May of 1963?

Mr. Andrews.

On Friday.

Mr. Liebeler.

That was after Oswald had been in your office?

Mr. Andrews.

After Oswald's initial contact. I think he had come back with this Mexicano one more time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Before these people were arrested?

Mr. Andrews.

Yes; then the second time he came back, we talked about the yellow paper discharge, about his status as a citizen, and about his wife's status.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now before we get into that, let me try and pin down how long