Mr. Ryder.

holding the mount of the scope on which is, more or less, made it positive we hadn't mounted it on the gun, so Mr. Horton, so he took it for granted that I hadn't done the work on it and I am sure I haven't because--

Mr. Liebeler.

What kind of gun was it?

Mr. Ryder.

It was a 6.5 Italian.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know the make?

Mr. Ryder.

Like I say, I have seen several of them but as far as who made the gun, I don't know; probably some Italian gun manufacturer but as far as who it was, I don't know. I can't read Italian.

Mr. Liebeler.

Could you tell from looking at the ticket when this work was done? First of all, the tag was not dated?

Mr. Ryder.

The tag was not dated.

Mr. Liebeler.

Could you make any estimate of the time by looking at this ticket as to when the work was done?

Mr. Ryder.

Well, it was done sometime between the 1st and 15th of November.

Mr. Liebeler.

How could you tell that?

Mr. Ryder.

Because the work was done while the Greeners or the Woody Francis Greeners, the owners of the sport shop were on vacation.

Mr. Liebeler.

How do you know?

Mr. Ryder.

They were gone that 2 weeks.

Mr. Liebeler.

How do you know it was done while they were gone?

Mr. Ryder.

Actually, I can't really say too definitely sure but I am quite sure it was because he doesn't remember seeing the gun in the shop while he was there. In other words, before they left, and of course, it was gone when they came back.

Mr. Liebeler.

When you say "the gun," what do you mean?

Mr. Ryder.

The one I worked on--in other words, he keeps a pretty good watch on my work to make sure I'm getting it out on time and he will check fairly close every day, every other day, and check to make sure I'm getting the work out, that old work isn't laying there to be done. He's pretty sharp on remembering names and he would have remembered that quite surely if--

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have much work of this type?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes, sir; at that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did have quite a lot of work at this time mounting telescopic sights?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes; when they left, that's 2 weeks prior to the opening of the deer season here and I guess that 2 weeks I mounted 35, 40, maybe 50 scopes in that week as well as run the business while they was gone which is quite a headache in itself. That's just prior to hunting season, you see. Just like I told everybody all along, I couldn't say specifically if it was by seeing pictures if it was him or another Oswald. In other words, I don't put that close relation to a man's face to a particular item of work.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did the deer season open--the 14th or 15th of November?

Mr. Ryder.

The 15th, I believe it was this year.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you say you mounted perhaps as many as 50 scopes in the 2 weeks preceding that day?

Mr. Ryder.

Very possibly.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let's go back to the last 2 weeks in October. Did you have a similar number of scopes to mount during that time?

Mr. Ryder.

Not quite that many. Lot of these guys like to get their scopes mounted just before they leave. For instance, buying these license plates and getting your car inspected works the same way. They wait until the last minute before they really get ready to go.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection of about how many scopes you might have mounted during the last 2 weeks in October?

Mr. Ryder.

No, sir; I sure wouldn't say specific to remember, sure wouldn't be sure about the number.

Mr. Liebeler.

It would not have been as many as you did the first 2 weeks in November but would it have been more than 10?

Mr. Ryder.

Oh, yeah; I'm quite sure. I say roughly 25 scopes. Of course, a lot of these people that buy their scopes wholesale or buy a cheap scope that we don't handle, we handle the better priced and better scopes and they buy