Mrs. Gibson.

windows. The floor had big bumps in it, you know. It was like the building had shifted and you walked up hill, you know, to get from one side of the room to the other. It was not a nice place; no.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it a brick structure, wooden?

Mrs. Gibson.

It was brick outside, dark red brick. It was a small apartment building, I think two stories, overrun with weeds and garbage and people.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you visit the Oswald's in that apartment thereafter?

Mrs. Gibson.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know whether your husband did?

Mrs. Gibson.

I think he told me when I came back to Dallas in December that he visited them once.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it then that sometime after November 3, you left Dallas?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; I left Dallas the latter part of November.

Mr. Jenner.

And just to orient you, where did you go?

Mrs. Gibson.

I went to Tucson, Ariz.

Mr. Jenner.

You were with your aunt?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I was by myself.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you lived in Tucson?

Mrs. Gibson.

Before that, no; not really. I had been to boarding school there a few years, and I lived in Tucson I year with my aunt in a house that we rented, and her husband, but I had not lived in Tucson before this.

Mr. Jenner.

Let's identify her. What was her name?

Mrs. Gibson.

Mrs. Tilton.

Mr. Jenner.

What was her full name?

Mrs. Gibson.

Do you want her first name?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Gibson.

Nancy.

Mr. Jenner.

Nancy Tilton?

Mrs. Gibson.

Nancy Sands Tilton.

Mr. Jenner.

And her married name?

Mrs. Gibson.

Mrs. Charles Elliott Tilton III.

Mr. Jenner.

And in previous years you had as a young girl, even as a child, lived with her; had you not?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

That was a good many years?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; 14 years.

Mr. Jenner.

Fourteen years. Was that in Arizona or Florida?

Mrs. Gibson.

It was all around. I lived in Vermont in the summer, Arizona in the winter, Florida sometimes. It depended.

Mr. Jenner.

Your aunt was a person of means I gather?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You have already mentioned that you saw Lee Harvey Oswald when you returned from Arizona?

Mrs. Gibson.

I am not sure if it was then or if it was right before I left.

Mr. Jenner.

Before you left for what?

Mrs. Gibson.

Arizona.

Mr. Jenner.

And where did you see him?

Mrs. Gibson.

At the apartment. He came by to pick up a manuscript that I had of his.

Mr. Jenner.

That is at your apartment?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I show you a document that is in evidence in this proceeding as Commission Exhibit No. 95. Would you examine that and tell me whether that is the manuscript to which you have made reference several times.

Mrs. Gibson.

I believe it is. Yes; it is.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell me the circumstances under which you first saw, that document and how it came into your possession?

Mrs. Gibson.

I asked Lee if he had written anything on Russia that I could read, if he had any material, and he said yes, he did; that he had a manuscript that he had written on general life in Russia and I asked him if I could read it and he said yes and he gave it to me. He brought it over one evening. I have no idea of the date or the time.