He didn't deserve it. They didn't owe it to him. Yet he seemed to, I got the feeling he thought they did. Why, I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you get the feeling at any time that he was contemptuous of any of them?

Mrs. Gibson.

When they didn't come up with something he wanted; yes. I'd say George Bouhe was the one that stuck by him the most, more than my father, more than any of them. Mrs. Hall got disgusted with the whole thing, and especially, well, with both of them really, a lot with Marina and a lot with Lee.
She got very disgusted with the whole situation. My father did, too. George Bouhe seemed to be the only one that sort of stuck by them.

Mr. Jenner.

Why did your father become disgusted with them?

Mrs. Gibson.

Oh, just in general, with Lee's lack of being able to get a good job or being able to really stick with anything, his treatment of his wife, his treatment of his fellowmen, just his total indifference. My father just got very aggravated with the whole thing, got aggravated with Marina. for taking Lee's abuse, and he just got fed up.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, there came an occasion when he either lost or quit his position in Fort Worth, isn't that so?

Mrs. Gibson.

I guess so.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, that--

Mrs. Gibson.

I imagine, I don't know if he lost it or if he quit. I believe he said he quit.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, now that you have said that, the fact is that he did quit. Now, to help orient yourself, that occurred on the 8th of October 1962, which was, I think, a Tuesday but I will check on that to make sure. That was a Monday.

Now, between that Sunday afternoon which would be either late in August or some time in September, and the 8th of October, which was a Monday, when he left the Leslie Welding Co., had you seen the Oswalds? Mrs. GIBSON. Between when?

Mr. Jenner.

Between the Sunday that you visited them and the 8th of October.

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't believe we had. We might have. He might have popped in. I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You have mentioned--

Mrs. Gibson.

Is this before he stayed at the YMCA? This is before, isn't it?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. To help you in that respect, he stayed at the YMCA October 15 through October 19, 1962.

Mrs. Gibson.

He might have popped in. I don't recall whether he did or not.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, during that period of time, from that Sunday to October 8, had Marina stayed with you?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

You do recall Lee Oswald being in Fort Worth at the YMCA, however, do you?

Mrs. Gibson.

In Fort Worth?

Mr. Jenner.

I mean in Dallas.

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; we took him. there.

Mr. Jenner.

You did take him to the YMCA?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, that was the 15th of October?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

1962. Where was Marina then?

Mrs. Gibson.

She might have been with us at the time.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall whether you went to Fort Worth and picked him up and took him to the YMCA?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't believe we did.

Mr. Jenner.

Give me your best recollection of that circumstance.

Mrs. Gibson.

All I can remember is letting him off at the YMCA. I am almost positive we wouldn't go to Fort Worth, though, to pick him up. No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

That was a Monday.

Mrs. Gibson.

It was the afternoon when we dropped him at the Y.