Mr. Jenner.

in life, if not directed toward any person, that he decided he would rationalize to avoid self-analysis?

Mr. Glover.

I didn't get a very strong impression of that at all at the time. I think he was particularly well behaved when we met him, because I think he was pretty much flattered that someone else would take an interest in him, and I think he ate this up to be questioned about something by somebody who might have some status in society where he didn't have any. But I didn't get the impression that he was terribly bitter about this. I got the impression he was very unsatisfied and unadjusted, maladjusted. He didn't make any adjustment.

Mr. Jenner.

During the conversation, did he make any remarks, that you recall, concerning the United States?

Mr. Glover.

No; he did not make any remarks, except the remarks about the system not being a satisfactory one.

Mr. Jenner.

Was President Kennedy mentioned?

Mr. Glover.

I do not believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything as to whether he was involved in or supporting any particular political causes?

Mr. Glover.

No; he did not say anything about that at all.

Mr. Jenner.

You got no impression that evening as to whether he might or could be or was--might be or could be or was a person given to violence?

Mr. Glover.

No; I did not get the impression that he was given to violence, except for the fact that he had mistreated his wife, apparently, according to the De Mohrenschildts. They led me to think that he might take out his aggression, as a psychologist might say, but certainly not the violence of the type of the assassination or something like this.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the last occasion that you saw the Oswalds?

Mr. Glover.

Essentially that is the last. I hedge a little bit on this because I faintly recollect that De Mohrenschildt came by the house where I was living once, and he may have had Oswald with him, but it was nothing but a passing meeting. If it existed, I am not quite sure. It was nothing of significance that existed.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see or meet, or were you present at any time subsequent to this meeting when Marina was present?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; I was present at one time. Let's see now, the sequence of events after that were, De Mohrenschildt left for Haiti sometime in early May. I am not really sure whether it is before they left. I guess it might have been before they left, or right after they left. I had a record player which they had loaned me.

Mr. Jenner.

From the De Mohrenschildts?

Mr. Glover.

The De Mohrenschildts had loaned me, and when Pierce and Schmidt moved in, they had record players, and they (De Mohrenschildts) wanted to give the record player to Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

The De Mohrenschildts?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; I had the record player, so one night when Pierce and I were going to visit a friend for dinner, a fellow by the name of Bob Tabbert, who I used to work with, we brought the record player with us and left it off at Marina's place.
Now at that time I knew where they lived, because I picked them up before at Elsbeth, and this time it was in the evening and we drove up by the apartment where they lived, and just as we drove up, Marina was wheeling her baby on the side of the road, and it was obvious she was going somewhere else, and it was difficult to communicate with her, but apparently she knew about the record player, and she pointed up to a house, and we drove and waited in the street until she went to a door in the house, and we understood she lived there, and it was somewhat of a ramshackled house, and it was around the corner, I don't know the name of the street, I could find it, I'm sure, it was the first----

Mr. Jenner.

Neely Street?

Mr. Glover.

I don't remember the name. I could find the street, because it was the first street on the left going north on Elsbeth.

Mr. Jenner.

In any event, this was an apartment building or home different from the one in which you picked them up in February of 1963?