(Testimony of Everett D. Glover)
Mr. Glover.
That's right. So I gave her the record player.
Mr. Jenner.
Gave it to her?
Mr. Glover.
That's right. That is what De Mohrenschildt asked me to do.
Mr. Jenner.
Lee Oswald did not appear on the scene at that time?
Mr. Glover.
No; he was not there.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you know he was not there?
Mr. Glover.
No; I didn't know he was not there; no. Well, I am not sure about that. Seems to me, yes, that I asked if her husband was there, because the record player had been standing waiting to be taken over there for sometime when we were going and it had fallen off and had the arm damaged, and I could not converse with her, and I tried to explain, and I asked if her husband was there, and I had the impression he wasn't there, and I am not sure about that.
Mr. Jenner.
Then what we have referred to was the last contact you had with Marina?
Mr. Glover.
That was the last time I saw her.
Mr. Jenner.
Did Mrs. Paine ever talk to you about Marina at any time thereafter?
Mr. Glover.
The Paines, either one or the other, talked to me after that time. On one occasion I got a call on the telephone, I am not sure whether it was Mr. or Mrs. Paine, in which they said the record player--I believe it was the same one I had given or taken over to her that belonged to the De Mohrenschildts, was there at their house, and that she--first of all, the events after that went like this.
The De Mohrenschildts left and they told me Oswald lost his job and had gone to New Orleans. Then I believe it was only later through the Paines that I learned, I believe it was a telephone conversation, that Marina was staying there with them, or had been staying with them, and also left to go to New Orleans.
Mr. Jenner.
This was in the spring of 1963?
Mr. Glover.
This was sometime after the first of May. And I think at this time I learned through them that Marina had gone to join him in New Orleans.
Mr. Jenner.
Was anything said about Mrs. Paine having taken Marina to New Orleans?
Mr. Glover.
Nothing was said about her taking her to New Orleans, but I do believe I knew at that time that Marina had stayed with her. I think I learned it through conversation with them. I don't remember having heard from or seen the Paines since the time they were at my house until the time that I have learned Marina had gone to New Orleans and had previously stayed with Ruth. And until the time that Mike came over and delivered the record player. I think Mike was the one who brought the record player, and I don't remember the circumstances on that, but I believe it was he. I am not sure I was home. I am not sure about that.
Mr. Jenner.
By the way, that letter that De Mohrenschildt wrote you from Haiti, does this refresh your recollection more exactly as to his remarks about what you have testified:
"It is interesting, but before we began to help Marina and the child, we asked the FBI man in Dallas or in Fort Worth about Lee, and he told us he was completely harmless?"
Mr. Glover.
Yes; he used the word harmless, but I wasn't sure I was quoting what he said.
Mr. Jenner.
Are you recounting a sequence of events with respect to Marina?
Mr. Glover.
Yes; so I learned, at the time they brought the record player, that she had gone to New Orleans.
Then the only other connection I had with them was that later than that, and now again I am not quite sure about the date, but it seems it must have been after I was married and I was still living on Southwestern, but I got a call from one of the Paines saying they had records that the De Mohrenschildts had given Marina. These were for Russian speaking people learning English, I believe, that they had, and what to do with them?
And I said, bring them over here and I will store them. And I remember talking, and I remember Michael Paine brought the records over to me and came in the house, and I talked with him a little bit. At this time Michael Paine told me the last information I had about them. He told me that, I am
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