Mr. Jenner.

And do you ever recall having any contact with or seeing a person known as Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Hulen.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

At the suggestion of Mr. Sorrels, of the Secret Service, have you caused an examination to be made of the guest record of the YMCA to determine whether a person by. the name of Lee Harvey Oswald was ever a guest at the YMCA?

Mr. Hulen.

I wouldn't be in a position to know--I'm not familiar enough with that and I have nothing whatsoever to do with it so I don't know what has been done or what has been requested.

Mr. Jenner.

You have brought to me today a longhand sheet which appears on ruled notepaper and is what purports to be a list of registrations for one Lee Oswald during the year 1962, and another entry, one for the year 1963, Hulen Exhibit No. 2. From whom and from what source did you obtain this document?

Mr. Hulen.

From Mr. McRee's secretary, who is the resident manager.

Mr. Jenner.

McRee is the resident manager?

Mr. Hulen.

Mr. McRee is the resident manager.

Mr. Jenner.

And his secretary furnished you this slip of paper?

Mr. Hulen.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she advise you from what source she obtained these entries?

Mr. Hulen.

I made the entries myself from her records of the payments.

Mr. Jenner.

I understand--you prepared this and it is in your handwriting?

Mr. Hulen.

That is correct; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And from what source did you obtain the information on this piece of paper?

Mr. Hulen.

From her receipts of payment for room rent.

Mr. Jenner.

And those are records that are kept by the YMCA in the usual and regular course of business?

Mr. Hulen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you personally examined them?

Mr. Hulen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you find, when you personally examined those receipt records, any receipts in the name of a person named Lee Oswald.

Mr. Hulen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You actually saw on the receipts the name "Lee Oswald"?

Mr. Hulen.

I sure did. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Jenner.

And then you have listed under the first heading of "Lee Oswald," a series of dates, October 15, October 16, October 17, and October 18, 1962, in each instance. Then, in parentheses following those entries in the the same sequences appears the name Burge and the name Burgess and the name Burge again and then the name Barker. Following those in the same descending sequence are serial numbers: "L--18198." In your last column and in the same sequence are dollar figures: "3.25, 2.25, 2.25 and again 2.25." Now, would you explain those entries,. please?

Mr. Hulen.

Well, he checked in on 10-15-62.

Mr. Jenner.

That is Lee Oswald?

Mr. Hulen.

Lee Oswald check in on 10-15-62. The desk clerk at that time was a Mr. Burge, and the L-18198, was the number of the receipt which was given Lee Oswald, and the amount of $3.25, was $2.25 for the night's lodging and $1 deposit on the room key, which is refunded when it is returned to the front desk. Shall I go on?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. And then there is an additional set of entries below those we have now described and they read, "Lee Oswald, [spelling] T-o-r-o, Calif." and the next line October 3, 1963 Barker?

Mr. Hulen.

Barker was the desk clerk, and the M-15593 was the humor of the receipt and $3.25 was the room. fee and a $1 deposit on the key.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, those entries record the fact then that Oswald was a guest at the YMCA October 15th through October 19th, both inclusive, and again on October 3, 1963?

Mr. Hulen.

Through October 18th, I believe it is, isn't it?

Mr. Jenner.

It shows he was a guest at the YMCA October 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19, of 1962, and again on October 3 and to ,October 4 of 1963?