Mr. Glover.

wanted to go and he did what he wanted to do and he didn't care very much about what anyone said.
He wanted to play tennis, morning, noon and night. He wanted to dress the way he wanted to. He was not very conforming in his physical dress or in his appearance or anything else. But the main thing that impressed me most about him was his immaturity. He acted like a fellow who is in his teens, who was reacting against everything in the world and never settled down, and acted like this minor revolution which occurs in most people, of being against authority and so forth, and wanted to travel over the world and do things himself. He is sort of a revolution inside of him. It never stops. He was sort of a rebel.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you say he really had somewhat adolescent tendencies and had never grown up?

Mr. Glover.

I would say that he was very much so; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

In your time and my time, we talked about "Joe College." Is that expression familiar to you?

Mr. Glover.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he that kind of a person, breezy?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; very much so. Very outspoken. His language sometimes wasn't very nice. He said anything he wanted to say.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he, in his conversation, somewhat of a braggart?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; he was.

Mr. Jenner.

Talked about himself a great deal and what his accomplishments were and so forth?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; he did. He was somewhat of a braggart. He did, like many, many people, he embroidered things. I had the feeling one could never place full stock in exactly all the things he said. He was like a lot of people, he embroidered things. Not so much a braggart exactly as just one who just talked a lot about everything. I think, yes; he was sort of a braggart in a way.

Mr. Jenner.

What would you say were his attitudes and his relationships, first, with the male sex, and second with the ladies?

Mr. Glover.

Female sex?

Mr. Jenner.

Overall attitude.

Mr. Glover.

His overall attitude, one of his preoccupations was sex, seemingly, the female sex. He used to talk about every female he saw go by. He would ride along in his car and blow the horn at any female he saw going down the street. And his attitude toward males, as far as I know, there was no particular, nothing particular to be said on that subject.

Mr. Jenner.

But he showed considerable interest in ladies?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; he showed a very, very great interest in them, sort of a preoccupation thing with him.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he seem to ingratiate himself with ladies when he was in their presence?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; he was even somewhat rougher than that. He would act very, very aggressive toward them, very aggressive toward them. I don't know whether his bite was as bad as his bark. I never saw any evidence of it, but he was very, very rough and aggressive with people.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you give me your present overall impression of George De Mohrenschildt insofar as character and integrity are concerned?

Mr. Glover.

Well, he was a man who obviously very much embroidered things he said. And also from his political opinions, which he gave out from time to time, didn't show very clearly where he stood.

Mr. Jenner.

Now would you give the circumstances and your---first give in the sense of, first, I mean political in the sense of the views he entertained with respect to governments in general, and in particular, I mean as against any political party.

Mr. Glover.

Well, he said--the main thing there is his cynical attitude towards things. I don't think he respected any kind of authority. I think that he is sort of apolitical. He sort of resented having to conform very much. But his political views, as far as our system versus communism, for