Mr. Taylor.

And we just talked briefly that evening---not about anything in great detail. I stayed--I didn't go to stay a long time, just to return the manuscript, but due to the hospitality that was extended, I stayed perhaps an hour or 2 hours.

Mr. Jenner.

How did they appear, in their relations one to the other, on this occasion?

Mr. Taylor.

It appeared that--uh--they were getting along well. When I arrived, the baby was asleep and they were both in the kitchen. He was sitting at a table, I think, reading and---

Mr. Jenner.

A book or a newspaper?

Mr. Taylor.

Sir?

Mr. Jenner.

Reading a book or a newspaper?

Mr. Taylor.

A book, I believe. I think he checked out a number of books from the library.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you understand him to be an avid reader?

Mr. Taylor.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever observe what character of books he was reading?

Mr. Taylor.

As I remember, they were primarily political philosophy. I don't remember any titles specifically. I think he did have a copy of--uh--at one time, of something by Karl Marx. I don't remember the title or name of the book.

Mr. Jenner.

"Das Kapital"?

Mr. Taylor.

I'm aware of that title--but I just don't remember what he had a copy of.

Mr. Jenner.

But they were political.

Mr. Taylor.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Books on political philosophy, governmental structure, and philosophy?

Mr. Taylor.

I would say primarily on philosophy.

Mr. Jenner.

Philosophy or theories of government?

Mr. Taylor.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. You had, I gather, a reasonably pleasant visit on this particular evening?

Mr. Taylor.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see them again after that?

Mr. Taylor.

I did not see both of them again after that. Sometime much later----

Mr. Jenner.

This is much later but prior to November 15, 1962?

Mr. Taylor.

Prior to November of 1963? Is that what you meant?

Mr. Jenner.

I had concluded you were speaking of prior to----

Mr. Taylor.

No; I did make contact with them after my separation--if that's what you are alluding to. In the spring of 1963 I dropped by this Elsbeth apartment building and, finding no one at home, I asked someone who was sitting in the courtyard about them. And I think he was the manager. And he told me that they had moved and he told me where they had moved.

Mr. Jenner.

What did he say?

Mr. Taylor.

He told me that they had moved into a small apartment about a block away. And I went there.

Mr. Jenner.

What street was that?

Mr. Taylor.

I don't remember.

Mr. Jenner.

What town?

Mr. Taylor.

Dallas--about a block away from. Elsbeth. And, anyway, I went to this--where I had been directed, and found Marina at home.

Mr. Jenner.

Was Lee at home?

Mr. Taylor.

No, he was not.

Mr. Jenner.

What day of the week was this?

Mr. Taylor.

I don't remember.

Mr. Jenner.

Why did you go there?

Mr. Taylor.

Just for a friendly visit.
Marina was at home. She---her English had improved enough for her to get across to me a few ideas. She said that Lee was not home, that--uh--I don't remember her saying where he was. She said that he was attending