Mr. Liebeler.

recollection of ever seeing any paper like either one of these two samples in front of you, 142 and 364, in or about your place in Irving, Tex.?
And in connection with this question consider also the gummed wrapping tape with which the packages are reconstructed?

Mr. Paine.

We have a roll of gummed wrapping paper at home but this is 3 inches wide and we have 2-inch wide. Do you have a ruler here? Yes, this is 3-inch tape.
Now I don't remember for certain what the tape is we had at home,but I the impression it was a 2-inch tape.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection that the authorities inquired about this question before?

Mr. Paine.

No, I don't recall that question at all.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you still have that tape?

Mr. Paine.

Yes, we do.

Mr. Liebeler.

I would like to have you make sure that it doesn't get lost when we come down to Dallas within the next week or two. We will ask you some more questions about it.

Mr. Paine.

All right. Do you want me to make a note of it?

Mr. Liebeler.

In fact, I will ask you if you would, when you return to Irving, if you would take a sample of that tape and mail it to me at the Commission so that between now and the time I come to Texas the FBI will have an opportunity to examine it and compare it with the tape which has been used in making bags. Do you recall whether that tape was at your premises on November 22?

Mr. Paine.

I think so. It has been there for quite a long time. That is presumably, I don't think it has been used up. I was using it fairly recently. I didn't use much so it would still be there, and I think it had been a big roll and now it is a small roll. We don't use much.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where was it located on the 22d of November, do you remember?

Mr. Paine.

Yes; there is a drawer which it is possible he knew of. The desk---I think he helped us move the furniture around at that time the desk was moved to its present position, which is right beside the garage door. There is a kitchen-dining area and from that the door leads into the garage and it is right beside that door in the bottom drawer.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about the paper. Do you think that there is any possibility that Oswald could have gotten the paper from which he presumably made this bag at your place?

Mr. Paine.

Well, I don't recognize that paper.

Mr. Liebeler.

Referring to 142?

Mr. Paine.

Or as I say, this looks more common or cheaper grade of paper.

Mr. Liebeler.

Referring to 364.

Mr. Paine.

And I don't remember paper of either kind, of course, in the garage itself.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection of the authorities inquiring about the presence or absence of paper like this at your place?

Mr. Paine.

No, I don't remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have any discussions about any questions which the FBI or the other authorities may have asked your wife about this question?

Mr. Paine.

I don't remember anything on it. One way or the other about that.

Mr. Liebeler.

To the best of your recollection the subject has never been mentioned between yourself and your wife?

Mr. Paine.

I am certain that I have never discussed tape with anyone. I did know it was reported in the paper that Lee went to work that morning with something wrapped in brown paper, curtain rods, I guess he did call it. Whether we had some discussion or I think it is we may have had some discussion, I just don't remember the burden of it.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have a list of names of people who I think lived in the Dallas and Fort Worth area and I want to ask you whether you know them or whether their names are familiar to you. Mr. and Mrs. Peter Gregory?