(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)
Mr. Jenner.
knowledge of the rifle on the floor of your garage, connected with Lee Oswald's history as you knew it up to that point, and some of the suspicions that you voiced in your testimony with respect to Lee Oswald, have led you to be apprehensive out of the ordinary as to the existence of that rifle on the floor of your garage?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't believe I would have assumed that this rifle was for any other purpose than deer hunting.
Mr. Jenner.
Did the FBI, any of the FBI agents inquire of you prior to November 22, 1963, as to whether there were any firearms in and about your home?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Did any FBI agent inquire of you as to whether you thought there was any suspicious--anything suspicious about Lee Harvey Oswald that caused you any concern with respect to the safety of the Government of the United States or any individual in it, in that Government?
Mrs. Paine.
No; they made no such inquiry.
Mr. Jenner.
And I would repeat this line of questioning with respect to Marina as well as Lee. Would your answers be the same if I did?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; they would be the same.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, Marina testified of her impression that when Lee returned to Dallas, and then to your home on the 4th of October 1963, that he--when he came to your home he had a valise or a suitcase.
Mrs. Paine.
Marina testified, did you say?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes. What impression do you have in that respect I realize that when you reached your home he was out on the front lawn.
Mrs. Paine.
On what day?
Mr. Jenner.
Fourth of October 1963.
Mrs. Paine.
No. He arrived at my home before I did on the 4th of October.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes; I said that.
Mrs. Paine.
But it was on the 21st of November that he was out on the front lawn when I arrived. My recollection is that----
Mr. Jenner.
Please. I am referring back to the time that he came from Dallas initially. That was the 4th of October.
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you have any recollection as to any luggage of any kind or character that he might or did bring with him on that occasion?
Mrs. Paine.
None.
Mr. Jenner.
None whatsoever. Did you ever see him take any luggage out of your home anytime after he had come to your home on October 4?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes. And, as I believe I have testified, it is my impression that I took him to the bus station in Irving on the 7th of October, and then he carried both shirts over his arm freshly ironed, and this green zipper bag. But this is my impression.
Mr. Jenner.
In any event, at no time from October--including October 4 to November 22 did you see him have in his possession any luggage other than the green zipper bag?
Mrs. Paine.
That he was carrying?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
My statement is correct?
Mrs. Paine.
I have no recollection of any other kind of luggage being used by him.
Mr. Jenner.
Did the subject of abortion--was the subject of abortion ever one discussed between you and Marina?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes. And I think I have so testified. When--part of our first meeting, as we talked in the park, or close to the first meeting, after having left her apartment in March, and walked to the park--she told me that she was going to have a baby, and she said that she didn't believe in abortion.
Mr. Jenner.
Is that when the discussion occurred on birth control?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And was that discussion on birth control directed towards her avoiding a larger family?
Mrs. Paine.
Future pregnancies; yes.
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